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07-07-2005, 07:29 PM | #1 |
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Ummm totally new to this!!
Ok, I am a total meat eater........don't think that will ever change! I don't eat beef though. Well my 9 yo has come to me and pronounced he is an "EGG A TARIAN" Which means he will not eat eggs. He says he feels bad for the baby chicks. I don't have a problem at all with him saying this, doing this. In fact I want to encourage what *he* believes and feels. (though getting dh to respect a 9 yo opinion on this is a little umm let's say difficult!!!!) Ds knows about what being a vegetarian is and what vegan is.
What kinds of things does he need to eat if he is not eating eggs and meat. We eat a lot of dried beans, but not nearly enough to replace eggs and meat. What other things could he be eating to get his iron and protein that his body and brain need????? |
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07-08-2005, 01:36 AM | #3 |
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Re: Ummm totally new to this!!
If it makes him feel better, he could eat cage free eggs. Does he know that eggs are not undeveloped chicks? That sounds dumb, but I am embarrassed to say that I didn't know this until I was about 25. I didn't know hens laid eggs even in the absence of a rooster. I guess that makes sense...we pass eggs regularly, too.
If he definitely wants to give this up, then I wish him well! Does he still eat dairy? I know it's bad, but that's where I get a lot of my protein (yogurt and cheese mostly).
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07-08-2005, 05:23 AM | #4 |
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Re: Ummm totally new to this!!
Yes he still eats dairy. Dh explained to him that eggs are not chicks, that the father chicken didn't do his part to make a chick, so there is no chick, kwim? He gets that, but it is very hard to change his mind about something, especially if *he* thinks he is right
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07-08-2005, 07:14 AM | #5 |
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Re: Ummm totally new to this!!
I just had this conversation with my kids. My 4 year old was making my 6 year old cry because she loves boiled eggs, and he told her she was eating babies. I had to straighten out the whole idea, but it kinda turned my 6 year old off of eggs, she hasn't asked for any lately, and she usually loves them.
I went vegetarian when I was twelve, my mom completely respected it, but she didn't cook meals around my preferences, I could pick and choose what I wanted from dinner, but I was still expected to eat with the family. I was a vegetarian from age 12 to 20. Then I craved red meat with my first pregnancy lol, I never went back. I guess my convictions weren't strong enough to outlast my cravings :P
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07-08-2005, 01:42 PM | #6 |
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Best sources for Iron (and calcium as well!) are grains like Teff, Aramanth, Quinoa; greens like collard, kale and spinach; nuts such as almonds and dried fruits (raisins, turkish apricots, cherries). Beans are also rich in iron.
Protein is in everything natural (ie whole plant, not processed necessarily). Eat lots of fresh fruits and vegetables, lots of beans (dried AND raw such as edamame and green/string), lots of nuts--both peanuts and tree nuts and lots of seeds. There are vegetarian analogs, but those aren't necessarily that healthy so I'd use them sparingly if at all. Tofu is another good occasional replacement, good in stir-fry, etc. Nutritional yeast flakes are high in protein (and some trace minerals/vitamins) and taste good added to many foods or sprinkled on buttered toast. Really though, most people (american/western) eat far more protein than their bodies need. Too much protein leads to weaker bones and things like kidney problems. Try to eat a widely-varied diet of whole fruits, vegetables and grains (raw when possible on all those) and he should do just fine. [f] |
07-19-2005, 12:26 PM | #7 |
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if you use blackstrap molasses you can get 20% of both iron and calcium
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08-08-2005, 10:10 PM | #8 |
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I have no advice, but I can relate. My ds is practically a vegetarian, he loves tofu & eggs & yogurt, but he VERY rarely eats meat. This all started after he saw a skeleton in an encyclopedia, then saw me cook bone in chicken & hasn't eaten meat since. I'm glad to find a group of Mamas who respect their children's choices & see them as individuals
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08-09-2005, 06:31 AM | #9 |
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Soya-based meat substitutes such as bean-curd or tofu are very nutritious. In the UK we have quorn which is very high in protein. However, the soya meat-substitutes are much more nutritious. You can also try giving him plenty of spinach and other green vegetables. Lentils are also very nutritious. Try following some sort of Indian-style diet. Eg. lentils with rice. If you put spinach into curry, it will disguise the flavour if your child is a fussy eater. You really need to be very imaginative with a vegan diet. Another good place to look for tasty vegetarian recipes is a mexican cook-book. (I think it's mexican) I'm talking about 'Old El Paso' type food with refried beans and tortillas. He can have them with tomatoes and cheese. These are also very high in protein. For tasty bean-curd recipes, try looking into chinese or japanese cookery books. The soya substitutes can be very well disguised by a curry flavour sauce. (Sometimes soya substitutes may not taste that nice on their own.)
Anyway, I think it's great that your son is forming a conscience at such a young age. He is a credit to you. |
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