Re: Kirk Cameron and Ted Tripp
 

:cup

Re: Kirk Cameron and Ted Tripp
 

http://slog. thestranger.com/2008/09/ ted_tripp_the_paradox_and_how_to_wield_t

Here's what he said at a Seattle conference:Smack him, and make sure you use a paddle that “spreads the shock over the wide area.”

"Peaceful protesters were spat upon and yelled at by parents attending this conference and demonstrators were hounded on public property by church security". http://tripp mtomars. blogspot.com/2008/09/some-good -news-and-some-bad-news.htmlThat doesn't seem loving does it?

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Yes - we had a great example of this for our children when my husband got pulled over for speeding. The police officer came to the door and the kids were like HI! Why are you talking to us?! and Sidney said "Daddy was driving too fast. Just like when you do something you shouldn't do and get in trouble. That happens to grown ups too."

I think it surprised the officer that we both instantly had that response to our children (vs immediately making excuses or even, sorry Cop, handing over our insurance) because we thought it was important to capitilize on their questions.

The truth is - real life DOES have consequences. And children have to learn that. Go outside without your shoes on, and you just might hurt your feet. Lol!

Megan, we use those words in our family too but not shaming. More just - matter-of-fact. And "how can we do things different next time?" type of teaching.

Angela <><

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Striving4Grace, It must be very hard to hear these things being said about your pastor. :sigh I hope you don't feel attacked. :hug2 We are trying very hard to be gentle, but we are also very passionate about fighting those teachings. :yes3

Re: Kirk Cameron and Ted Tripp
 

Yes.

The purpose of this forum is:


Tripp is in this category. I really think that what HL said should be taken to heart. I am both hopeful and fearful for you. Pastors like Tripp are master manipulators. They come across as very knowledgeable and that their way is THE WAY. While Tripp may be specifically telling you not to spank I thinks is paradigm is still potentially harmful to you. It would not be fair if we let the rest of his teaching slide.

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This. :hug

I LOVE my girlfriends who follow SACH to a tee and spank "out of love" in all the proper ways. However I still believe they are deeply misguided in what God has to say about parenting through his scriptures.

Kirk Cameron visited and spoke at my church a couple of Sundays ago. He seemed like a very nice man, but there was definitely an element of :scratch with some of the stuff he was talking about that made me wonder about how he parented. I'm always hopeful, but ya never know.

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No, Striving for Grace, please, not trying to offend all. I'm sure he has wonderful qualities as everyone does. Just trying to protect the children from physical assault. "Shepherding a Child's Heart" is the book that Kirk Cameron recommends. A lot of people respect him, therefore will follow his advice and recommendations.

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I know that Candace Cameron(who also mean very well surely ) recommends Ted Tripp's teachings as said in her former chatroom.
She does recommend a Debbie Pearl book:

My recommended reading for you is: Created to Be His Help Meet by Debbie Pearl. She recommends another author as well.http://www. worldviewweekend.com/ worldview-times/article.php?articleid=1617

Re: Kirk Cameron and Ted Tripp
 

:yuck

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I certainly wouldn't say this...I'd say there's a lot of disagreement (naturally) with his teachings. He seems fairly straightforward, though, rather than manipulative.

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I think they are manipulative because they get the parent in a position where they are vulnerable (most parents are vulnerable when reading a parenting book)and worried about their child's salvation. That is manipulative in my books.

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Thank you for expanding your thoughts, Sheryl. That's helpful. I can't recommend the book, but I would imagine he's a fine pastor and may grow, change, or become more nuanced in his ideas of how grace and truth can be applied in parenting.

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I agree :hug

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I can't remember if it was Kirk or Candace's site the originally recommended TTUAC for a while until the Sean Paddock controversy as well. :sick

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It is wonderfully good that you choose to not hit your children Striving for Grace!☺

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I think where we part company with Tripp is at this point. He sees spanking as reasonable, we do not. We all agree about consequences to negative behaviors - be it the removal of an item the child can't handle responsibly all the way to an older child needing to rebuild trust in their relationship beteen them and their parent. We don't agree that causing pain is logical for an issue of trust or respect or responsiblity. Avoidence of pain more often teaches a child to 'not get caught' long before it teaches them to modify their behavior based on understanding or maturing. 'Reeping what you have sown' is about natural conseqences, 'what I am doing to you' is about a parent's decision to apply pain on top of natural consequence at their discretion.

Does that help?