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04-17-2021, 11:01 AM | #1 |
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College - advice from the other side....
Many of us worry about preparing our children to succeed in college, should they wish to go. Right now I'm working as a graduate teaching assistant and my job is to grade papers. So I thought I'd offer some suggestion for how to prepare your student to write a research paper:
Teach them about voice. Telling your professor you are going to give them the 'hot take' on a subject or reference TikTok as a place you learn a lot is not the 'voice' of an academic paper. Submitting a paper to a PhD. who specializes in women's health should not include verbiage such as 'you might be wondering if you should be worried about this...' Teach them the difference between a research paper and a persuasive paper. Leaving out important information to make your opinion look like the only right choice is not appropriate. Teach them to read the directions. If it says four pages, it means four pages. If it says five sources, it means five sources. Remind them to reread the directions before submitting the assignment. The first thing the grader is going to read before grading should be the last thing the student reads before submitting. Teach them that writing does not have to happen in isolation. Ask people to read their work, listen to them read their work, ask for help when they need it. What we do as homeschoolers is optimal for improvement, it's not just because our kids are at home with parents. Teach them to proof read beyond the spell checker. Check the basics - does it list the correct professor, for example. If your topic had to be approved, do NOT change it without approval. Make sure they know that a real person is going to read this paper and if you make things up, they are very likely to catch you (and it will magnify all the other errs you made). I just read a paper that discussed the beginning of Birth Plans in the early 2000s. Clearly having had babies in the 1990s when birth plans were very common place meant everything else she wrote was suspect.
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04-17-2021, 11:13 AM | #2 |
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Re: College - advice from the other side....
excellent advice.
sad that you have to give such advice. |
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04-17-2021, 11:28 AM | #3 |
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Re: College - advice from the other side....
Thank you for making it in to a consis list.
If it would be ok I might copy them out to share with early bird in a year or so. Sent from my Pixel 2 XL using Tapatalk
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04-17-2021, 11:54 AM | #4 |
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04-17-2021, 02:47 PM | #5 |
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Re: College - advice from the other side....
Feel free. I'm working on a list to post at the beginning of next semester. This is just my second semester grading and its depressing to read some of these papers.
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04-17-2021, 04:40 PM | #6 |
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Re: College - advice from the other side....
It amazes me that they not only got through high school, but also a bachelor's degree and still turn in papers like this.
The idea of getting your topic approved is one they might not have encountered as an undergrad. But the rest should be old habit by the time you get to grad school. |
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04-17-2021, 04:54 PM | #7 |
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Re: College - advice from the other side....
yes, I agree. It is baffling and concerning honestly.
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04-17-2021, 08:00 PM | #8 | |
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Re: College - advice from the other side....
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04-18-2021, 04:46 AM | #9 |
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Re: College - advice from the other side....
Good advice. And I'll be honest, homeschoolers have a advantage here if their parents are teaching these things. Because quite frankly the schools aren't. I don't think this is a unique situation you're seeing -- now that my children are of college age, I'm seeing more and more college papers, talking academically to college students, etc., and honestly, I've been startled.
Where we've failed them... I'm not entirely sure. But absolutely we (our society as a whole) have failed this generation of young adults (for the most part) in the education front I strongly believe.
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04-27-2021, 06:58 AM | #10 | ||
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Re: College - advice from the other side....
What book?
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04-27-2021, 08:10 AM | #11 |
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Re: College - advice from the other side....
All issues I pointed out - that that ability to reproduce is one of the defining characteristics of life and that males reproduce, but do not carry and birth the young. Thank goodness I'm a homeschool mom and have taught biology three times over.
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04-27-2021, 02:44 PM | #12 |
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Re: College - advice from the other side....
I’ve taught essay writing at our homeschool co-op for more years than I care to count, and I taught it at a public high school before that. It is SO necessary and so often over-looked. There’s also an issue of time for the public school teacher. If they have 125 students each day, to give feedback and personal instruction just isn’t feasible.
Elizabeth, I feel your pain. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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