Originally Posted by bliss

I had a facinating conversation this weekend, that I thought might interest y'all.
Unfortunately, we live down the street from a gang hangout. Saturday, I was playing in the front yard with Turkey, and a group of guys were having a loud discussion in front of the gang house. I was tuning them out for the most part, when I heard the phrase, "gluestick trick". Well, for the millionth time in my life, curiosity killed the cat, and I boxed up my courage and walked across the street. "Hi!" says the little white housewife. "Hey!" say the thugs. :giggle "Hey, can I ask you guys a question?" "Um, sure?" "I heard you talking about a 'gluestick trick' - what do you mean by that?" They all look at each other, hem and haw a little, then one says, "Well, you wanna *mess* somebody up pretty bad, you hit them with your fist, they go to the cops, they're all bruised up, right? You take a gluestick, like for a glue gun, you use that, it *messes* your boy up right, but there's not a mark on them! It's like magic or something, they don't leave a single bruise, but it hurts like a [non-repeatable] and it can tear into the muscle and *stuff*." Another guy at this point asks me why I want to know, "Your man getting rough on you or something?" and laughs - I said no, I knew of people that spanked their kids with them, and that whole group of nine or ten hard-core tattooed thugs who had been laughing and talking while this was going on, went dead silent. I got a whole round of these: :hunh and finally one said, "If my baby's mama ever took a glue stick to him, she would never see him again. That is *messed* up."

Pretty interesting? Perhaps we should enlighten the "glue-stick spankers" that they are using a gang form of abuse and torture - wouldn't that be "conforming to the world"? Interesting that even these boys see something inherently wrong in hitting a child with one.

Originally Posted by nurse_reedle

I, in shock, had told a friend about this....she said, "Hmmmmm, I don't see how that is much different than a switch. "B" (her teenage daughter), her school is allowed to spank her. If they need to spank her, they will call me at home and either they can do it, or I can come in and do it." I said, "What if you don't agree with the spanking?" She said, "I got spanked at school and it never hurt me. I got spanked one time for singing a country song at school (Christian school)." I said, "Even IF I spanked, it would NEVER be ok for the school to spank my kid and it would NEVER, EVER, EVER be ok for them to spank for singing a country song!!!! Just tell them to stop!" She said, "Oh, if they hadn't spanked me I would have just done it again. I would have said, "No biggie, they will just tell me to stop again. The boys at our school used to do things on purpose to get spanked because our principal was a young woman about 22-23 yrs old and she is the one that spanked us, so they would do stuff just to get her to spank them." the school never caught on to what the boys were doing, because they were just spanking "as the Bible says" and not paying attention to what was REALLY going on. Nice, huh? :sick