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Old 04-05-2011, 05:43 AM   #1
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sensitive Criminal complaint released in the Lori/Timothy/Andrea Wick abuse scandal

http://therealrebeccadiamond.com/read-it-and-weep - I've posted a copy on my blog. Very, very sensitive
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Thank you for posting this story. I won't be supporting Lori Wick any more. Well, I don't usuLly buy books anyway, but I won't be borrowing herbooks from the library anymore either. That is just so sad what has happened to those children. They are just babies
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I am sick to my stomach. God pour tenderest mercy on those poor children and lift the veil of deception in the minds of the adults. That is horrible.
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Well that's disgusting.

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I am sick to my stomach. God pour tenderest mercy on those poor children and lift the veil of deception in the minds of the adults. That is horrible.
You are a much better person than I. While you are praying for them to have the veil of deception lifted I'm wanting to take a rod to them myself.
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The thing that has been so shocking to me in all this is how open all the members are being about spanking babies with rods - I mean, they seem to have *no idea* how it is perceived by others, no idea that most people consider that abuse . I just don't get it - I mean, even the Pearls & co. understand how that sort of thing is perceived by "outsiders" , and advise that you are careful amongst people "who don't understand (so-called) godly discipline" . But everything I've seen from this case indicates that the people charged have been amazingly open about what they do, with no apparent recognition that anyone would have a problem with it .
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http://wcca.wicourts.gov/simpleCaseS...F33895.render6

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That county said they don't make them available online
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Again, thank you for posting about this in a way that I can share on FB.
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I think it's time to make spanking against the law in the United States.
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that is just so heartbreaking.

Oddly, what I found the worst was that the father would read the Moses story and then leave his daughter alone when it was too sad for her.
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Thanks for posting that link. My heart feels crushed for those babies. I pray for the softening of their parents' hearts.

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Absolutely agree.

I will tell anyone who asks - I flatly cannot stand to watch it. To me watching a parent hit a child is no different than if a man dragged his wife aside in public... and started hitting her.

100 years ago domestic violence was "private" and "their business" and "just a part of life". And I truly believe in another 100 years, spanking children will seem just as barbaric as that standard does to the majority today.
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This is
John Caminiti told investigators in November he uses a rod or dowel on his two youngest children at home or at church and the scriptures make it clear his behavior is allowed.
He said he does not allow his family to communicate with people outside his religious beliefs and has punished his wife and son by shunning, or confining them to their rooms to have no contact with other family members, until they corrected their disobedience.
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Notice that the wife's status IRT punishment is the same level as the child's.
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Yes. That's what made me . Of course hitting babies does too.
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