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04-05-2012, 11:27 AM | #31 |
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Re: Above Rubies and failed adoptions
I'm not really sure. Bulgaria still has them and they are EU, but they had to clean them up quite a bit before joining. I'm pretty sure the EU prefers the foster care system, but there probably weren't enough foster parent volunteers to take in all of the kids. Maybe Romania's orphanages were beyond cleaning up to EU standards, so they shut them down instead. That's total speculation, but educated speculation, having lived in Moldova and visited Romania multiple times, including two Romanian orphanages in 2001.
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04-05-2012, 12:04 PM | #32 |
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Re: Above Rubies and failed adoptions
Romanian orphanages are infamous in Europe I think. certainly in the UK. they used (in the 90s) to be absolutely atrocious for the main part. I had understood they were much better and didn't know that the EU had asked for closure but it may be linked to the historical stuff. or maybe they hadn't cleaned all of them up that much
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04-05-2012, 12:43 PM | #33 |
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Re: Above Rubies and failed adoptions
What I am learning in this thread shines a new light on the Williams Tragedy.
I'm considering linking to this thread in that post, since it is public. What do you all think?
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04-05-2012, 12:44 PM | #34 | |
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04-05-2012, 12:49 PM | #35 |
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Re: Above Rubies and failed adoptions
If the info here was not meant to be public, please remove it. I was not planning to copy anything, only to link to what is already a public thread which is probably being indexed by Google even as we speak. If the info is going to be removed, I will not bother to link.
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04-05-2012, 02:19 PM | #36 |
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Re: Above Rubies and failed adoptions
For general adoption information PLEASE spin off a thread in the adoption forum.
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04-05-2012, 04:54 PM | #37 |
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04-05-2012, 06:30 PM | #38 | |
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04-06-2012, 02:58 PM | #39 |
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Re: Above Rubies and failed adoptions
Really looking forward to the article & book. I know some Above Rubies fans and I imagine they're quite clueless about all of this.
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04-06-2012, 09:07 PM | #40 |
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Re: Above Rubies and failed adoptions
I'm looking forward to the article, too. I know several Above Rubies fans, and one of which the family that adopted from Liberia. Some are not clueless, and it's sad to watch from the outside, what little the outside world is allowed to see.
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04-07-2012, 11:19 AM | #41 |
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Re: Above Rubies and failed adoptions
I am horrified by this.
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04-09-2012, 09:14 AM | #42 |
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04-09-2012, 09:54 AM | #43 |
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Re: Above Rubies and failed adoptions
I've never heard of any of this. It's disturbing and interesting.
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04-10-2012, 10:50 AM | #44 |
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Re: Above Rubies and failed adoptions
I haven't heard about any of this, but am extremely interested and will say I had looked into above rubies before as Dh and I are boarding on quiverfull...we'll see how true it ends up being.
Her recommendation of "Primal Wound" discredits anything she could possibly have to say in my book. Seriously, that book is horrible. Crude, horrible and misleading. As a women who was not raised by her birth mother I can honestly say this is the most offensive 'adoption' book. Not pro and does excuse adoptive parents of all responsibility.
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04-10-2012, 12:40 PM | #45 | |
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