So, cupgate

believer · 11-09-2015, 07:58 PM

or the red cup controversy. What is the deal? Does anyone really care? Did anyone actually protest about the cups or is it all a publicity scam? The thing is - I have not seen one post or article at all of anyone complaining about the cups not having Christmas decorations on them. Not one. However, my facebook feed and even news feeds are full of posts of people complaining about "others" who have complained about the cups not being Christmasy enough. Was there ever a real controversy or is it all a scam? Is it all a publicity stunt by Starbucks themselves? I don't really know. Has anyone seen anyone complaining about the cups or only the posts and articles complaining about the "Christians who complained" about the cups?

Mother of Sons · 11-09-2015, 08:10 PM

I e wondered the same thing. I haven't seen a single person actually complain about it. It seems so made up to me.

Virginia · 11-09-2015, 08:10 PM

To answer one of your questions, according to USA Today:

Quote:

Josua Feuerstein, an Arizona-based evangelist, posted a Facebook video that has been viewed 12 million times by Monday morning that lamented the lack of a Christian message on the red cups with traditional green logo.

So yes, someone was actually mad. Insert eye roll.

Chaos Coordinator · 11-09-2015, 08:15 PM

It's red and green! What could be more Christmassy and Jesus-ness than that!! It's not Christmas without Jesus coffee!!

Aerynne · 11-09-2015, 08:27 PM

I think it's dumb. It being America does not mean any person or any company has to celebrate Christmas. They don't complain about not having coffee that celebrates the Savior any other time of year. I would imagine, if Jesus is upset about it, he would be more upset about the use of his name and birth to support excessive spending than he would about cups having or not having Christmas stuff on them. And it's not like they had a manger scene anyway- they had reindeer and things like that. I think it is so, so, so, so dumb.

ValiantJoy07 · 11-09-2015, 08:32 PM

I refuse to mention how sick of it I am in fb because then I'm talking about it too. But

Seriously people, it's Starbucks. They aren't fair trade (they have their own fair trade "CAFE" set up but it isn't a international third party certification for most of their coffee. Less than 10% off their coffee is certified by a third party fair trade), they have questionable practices in that regard. And the coffee is way over priced and tastes bad (IMHO) and this a cuuuuup.

but really when people get in a frenzy over the latest trending thing I have to wonder what's going on elsewhere in the world...what are we missing?

Sorry OP not spewing on you.

just

this has been bugging me.

DahliaRW · 11-09-2015, 08:35 PM

Because snowflakes and reindeer on your coffee cup just scream "Jesus".

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melliethepooh · 11-09-2015, 08:39 PM

I think it's mostly fabricated. There was one cranky blogger (was he even really upset about it?) that the internet ran with. I don't know one single person the least bit upset by it.

JoyGal · 11-09-2015, 09:16 PM

I unfortunately saw a blip of the rant video and could not believe it. It's like he has no idea what he's even talking about, no actual point of evidence or solid reasoning. I don't know that there are many supporters, are there? Maybe he will enjoy his 15 min and if he decides to go back in, it will be for something positive.

DahliaRW · 11-09-2015, 09:44 PM

Oh goodness, now Trump is commenting on it:

Quote:

“Did you read about Starbucks? No more Merry Christmas on Starbucks,” Trump told a capacity crowd of thousands gathered to hear him speak at a pre-debate rally in Springfield, Illinois on Monday evening.

“Maybe we should boycott Starbucks. I don’t know,” he said. “Seriously, I don’t care.”
...
He added that Starbucks operates a store in one of his buildings and that “that’s the end of that lease, but who cares?”

http://www.seattletimes.com/nation-w...bucks-boycott/

Beth1231 · 11-09-2015, 09:45 PM

I saw all that jazz on mu Facebook today.
I told Hubby lots of churches need to flock to Starbucks,buy out the joint and give it away to cold,homeless people,crossing guards,construction workers,etc.
Just be Jesus. Who cares what color the vessel is?

MaybeGracie · 11-09-2015, 10:35 PM

I think this one fool of a individual is getting a ridiculous amount of attention from his video. Sure, there are people agreeing with him on his Facebook page, but there's really not a big "movement" of upset Christians here. Just one guy. Even the ultra-conservative Christians I know, who are usually the first to jump in with this sort of outrage, haven't even bothered with this one. It's kind of frustrating to see this guy getting so much attention instead of having people roll their eyes at him and continue on their way. It would have just been one more ridiculous video if everyone hadn't so very quickly jumped in to make it a huge viral rage-against-the-outrage thing.

SewingGreenMama · 11-09-2015, 10:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ValiantJoy07

I refuse to mention how sick of it I am in fb because then I'm talking about it too. But

Seriously people, it's Starbucks. They aren't fair trade (they have their own fair trade "CAFE" set up but it isn't a international third party certification for most of their coffee. Less than 10% off their coffee is certified by a third party fair trade), they have questionable practices in that regard. And the coffee is way over priced and tastes bad (IMHO) and this a cuuuuup.

but really when people get in a frenzy over the latest trending thing I have to wonder what's going on elsewhere in the world...what are we missing?

Sorry OP not spewing on you.

just

this has been bugging me.

Exactly why I go to Dunkin Donuts.

3PeasInAPod · 11-09-2015, 11:45 PM

I recently switched to dunkin donuts coffee -costco carries it now. I make fabulous hot and iced coffee from it. It costs more but worth it

I think this whole cup thing has blown way out of proportion
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MaySunflowers · 11-10-2015, 07:48 AM

I refuse to read more than the headlines as it sounds like the most ridiculous bunch of silliness ever.

I also never buy anything in places like Starbucks as their prices are theft!

11-09-2015, 07:58 PM	#1
believer Rose Garden Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 8,130	So, cupgate or the red cup controversy. What is the deal? Does anyone really care? Did anyone actually protest about the cups or is it all a publicity scam? The thing is - I have not seen one post or article at all of anyone complaining about the cups not having Christmas decorations on them. Not one. However, my facebook feed and even news feeds are full of posts of people complaining about "others" who have complained about the cups not being Christmasy enough. Was there ever a real controversy or is it all a scam? Is it all a publicity stunt by Starbucks themselves? I don't really know. Has anyone seen anyone complaining about the cups or only the posts and articles complaining about the "Christians who complained" about the cups? __________________ Dana INTJ widow of Big Bear, mom to: B. - 16 y.o. dd J.-19yo ds M.- 25 (MIL to) A - 24 2 white cats, 3 dogs http://becauseisaidsothathswhy.blogspot.com/

11-09-2015, 08:10 PM	#2
Mother of Sons Rose Garden My kid shoots laser beams from his hands Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 21,900	Re: So, cupgate I e wondered the same thing. I haven't seen a single person actually complain about it. It seems so made up to me.

11-09-2015, 08:15 PM	#4
Chaos Coordinator Rose Garden They need freedom to just be fluffy mashed potatoes and feel their fluffy feelings. Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Up to my earballs in little boys. Posts: 20,259	Re: So, cupgate It's red and green! What could be more Christmassy and Jesus-ness than that!! It's not Christmas without Jesus coffee!! __________________ Joy Progressive Methodist Enfp mama to Sparrow, 10 Zion, 7.5 Baby Gus, 4.5 Preschool teacher. Musician. Timelord. Www.justicemercymayhem.wordpress.com "What you plant in the kingdom will surely grow, and what you grow with love will surely bloom, and the fruit of the spirit will come back to you."

11-09-2015, 08:27 PM	#5
Aerynne Rose Garden Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 27,359	Re: So, cupgate I think it's dumb. It being America does not mean any person or any company has to celebrate Christmas. They don't complain about not having coffee that celebrates the Savior any other time of year. I would imagine, if Jesus is upset about it, he would be more upset about the use of his name and birth to support excessive spending than he would about cups having or not having Christmas stuff on them. And it's not like they had a manger scene anyway- they had reindeer and things like that. I think it is so, so, so, so dumb. __________________ Erin born of water and of the Spirit 4/96 married 5/02 Mama to: 2004 2007 2010 2012 2017 2019 Jan 2, 2024 And many I hope to hold in heaven one day

11-09-2015, 08:32 PM	#6
ValiantJoy07 Rose Garden "Take Joy Home, And make a place in thy great heart for her...Joy is the grace we say to God." ~Jean Ingelow~ Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: The Forest Posts: 16,337	Re: So, cupgate I refuse to mention how sick of it I am in fb because then I'm talking about it too. But Seriously people, it's Starbucks. They aren't fair trade (they have their own fair trade "CAFE" set up but it isn't a international third party certification for most of their coffee. Less than 10% off their coffee is certified by a third party fair trade), they have questionable practices in that regard. And the coffee is way over priced and tastes bad (IMHO) and this a cuuuuup. but really when people get in a frenzy over the latest trending thing I have to wonder what's going on elsewhere in the world...what are we missing? Sorry OP not spewing on you. just this has been bugging me. __________________ Hannah Joy Intuitive People Loving Introvert Married since '05 to Ryan software and web applications developer. Homeschooling Mama to my 5 Joys... dd1 RJ (12/07), dd2 AJ (08/09), dd3 PJ (01/12), ds1 Ziggy (09/15), ds2 Sunny (05/18) Enjoying a Healing Diet to manage SPD and other health challenges. Sorry for the typos and sloppy grammar I don't have a good excuse anymore. Last edited by ValiantJoy07; 11-09-2015 at 08:55 PM.

11-09-2015, 08:35 PM	#7
DahliaRW Rose Garden Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 3,793	Re: So, cupgate Because snowflakes and reindeer on your coffee cup just scream "Jesus". Sent from my SGH-M919 using Tapatalk __________________ ISFJ Mom married to an INTP Dad; busy raising 2 sons (15, 12) and a daughter (10)!

11-09-2015, 08:39 PM	#8
melliethepooh Rose Garden Dinosaurs are people too Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 5,981	Re: So, cupgate I think it's mostly fabricated. There was one cranky blogger (was he even really upset about it?) that the internet ran with. I don't know one single person the least bit upset by it. __________________ Melinda, INTJ Married to Mr since 12/06 ENTP Mama to all the babies, 1/09 ISTJ and 11/11 ExxP and 5/14 ExxP and NEW ONE 8/16

11-09-2015, 09:16 PM	#9
JoyGal Rose Garden Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 5,570	Re: So, cupgate I unfortunately saw a blip of the rant video and could not believe it. It's like he has no idea what he's even talking about, no actual point of evidence or solid reasoning. I don't know that there are many supporters, are there? Maybe he will enjoy his 15 min and if he decides to go back in, it will be for something positive. __________________ . Before you were conceived I wanted you. Before you were born I loved you. Before you were an hour, I would give my life for you. This is the miracle of life. ~ Maureen Hawkins My Hygge Page

11-09-2015, 09:45 PM	#11
Beth1231 Deactivated Join Date: May 2006 Location: Texas Posts: 14,962	Re: So, cupgate I saw all that jazz on mu Facebook today. I told Hubby lots of churches need to flock to Starbucks,buy out the joint and give it away to cold,homeless people,crossing guards,construction workers,etc. Just be Jesus. Who cares what color the vessel is?

11-09-2015, 10:35 PM	#12
MaybeGracie Moderator in A Twinkle in Our Eyes, Cradled in Our Wombs, Gentle Discipline, Nurturing Our Children, and Let's Talk Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: BC, Canada Posts: 9,856	Re: So, cupgate I think this one fool of a individual is getting a ridiculous amount of attention from his video. Sure, there are people agreeing with him on his Facebook page, but there's really not a big "movement" of upset Christians here. Just one guy. Even the ultra-conservative Christians I know, who are usually the first to jump in with this sort of outrage, haven't even bothered with this one. It's kind of frustrating to see this guy getting so much attention instead of having people roll their eyes at him and continue on their way. It would have just been one more ridiculous video if everyone hadn't so very quickly jumped in to make it a huge viral rage-against-the-outrage thing. __________________ Cynthia Ezer Kenegdo to Isaac since 2007 Raising Jacob (16), Luke (14), Lily (11), Elizabeth (9), Clara (6), and Emily (3) in the knowledge and love of God Blogging at The Hippie Housewife about attachment parenting, natural living, life as a Jesus-follower, and more, all tied together through our journey towards a more intentional life.

11-09-2015, 11:45 PM	#14
3PeasInAPod Deactivated Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: pnw Posts: 8,571	Re: So, cupgate I recently switched to dunkin donuts coffee -costco carries it now. I make fabulous hot and iced coffee from it. It costs more but worth it I think this whole cup thing has blown way out of proportion Sent from my SM-T530NU using Tapatalk

11-10-2015, 07:48 AM	#15
MaySunflowers Deactivated Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: UK Posts: 7,781	Re: So, cupgate I refuse to read more than the headlines as it sounds like the most ridiculous bunch of silliness ever. I also never buy anything in places like Starbucks as their prices are theft!

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