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03-02-2009, 06:17 PM | #46 |
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Re: Charlotte Mason?
I actually have a copy of TWTM (not mine- borrowed), and seriously... I did NOT "get" it! That's why I was actually going when you said your dh didn't get AO, but got TWTM lol I didn't "get" AO either, until I sat down and literally spent HOURS pouring over the site, reading through the FAQs, reading the links provided throughout the FAQs, etc. I now "get it", and actually wrote up a CM-y schedule for us. I don't know if we will follow it though. There are many things in the CM style that appeal to me. For instance, at first I TOTALLY didn't "get" the idea of reading from 10 different books per term--it made more sense to me to just read one, move along, read another, move along, etc. I spent a lot of time reading through the FAQs and articles there, and now I completely "get" it and wanna do it!! LOL (and was about to type it out but now I can't find it ) Anyway, it included some of the main tenents from CM that I liked, such as journaling, nature walks, copywork, read-alouds from multiple "good" books....
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03-02-2009, 07:24 PM | #47 | ||
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What is the difference between a Traditional approach and a Charlotte Mason approach to the 3 R's? I don't think I know what the Traditional approach entails.... I am imagining busy ever-repeating work and workbooks with a required number of problems you have to do, and desks, but that's probably not what you mean.
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03-02-2009, 08:41 PM | #48 | ||
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The difference between the Traditional Approach and the CM approach to the 3R's, IMO: Well, what you're imagining a Traditional approach "looks like" *could* be what it looks like. OR, it could look different. There is nothing inherently "Traditional" -in the homeschooling world anyway- about school desks but for some people, they work (for us, they work--everyone has their own space, and the open-front desks we have are a great way for everyone to keep their own books/journals/supplies together in one handy spot). The CM approach says for the 3R's, you do arithmetic, but in 'short lessons'. You do writing, but again in short lessons and also CM approach is more concerned with quality, not quantity. IOW, whereas a Traditional approach might have a 'handwriting assignment' that day, a CM approach would have copywork of some sort, and would rather see a child copy 2 sentences (or 1) perfectly than see a whole paragraph of half-sloppy. The CM approach would also intentionally include journaling, but so do many Traditional approaches. Now, being a little 'outside the box' that I am, I try to stick to the motto that WE rule our homeschool, our homeschool does not rule us. So while we may use my beloved Abeka curriculum, *I* hold the trump card--not Abeka lesson manuals--as to what we're doing that day (and to their credit, the Abeka manuals plainly state that a first year teacher might wanna follow the guide more closely, being 'new' and all, but that a more experienced teacher might just use the manuals as a 'guide', not a must-do). The Abeka assignment may very well be to finish the entire handwriting page, but if I see that my child "gets it" and is writing the letters perfectly, I'm not going to force her to finish the page (though I will say IMO what they ask of K5 isn't much at all--that does change in 1st tho). AFA phonics, I'm not sure there is much of a difference, but I don't really know. I agree about TWTM though-I read through it (what I could... ) and didn't see it as much more than suggestions.
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03-02-2009, 09:35 PM | #49 | |
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03-02-2009, 09:41 PM | #50 |
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wanna' come back to read this
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03-03-2009, 01:05 PM | #51 | |
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[quote] TWTM does make suggestions and allow you to do with it what you wish but it also has lesson books where the how part is laid out for you. The Ordinary Parents Guide to Teaching Reading, Language Lessons for the Very Young and Writing with Ease and Story of the World Activity book lay things out for you in a way that Ambleside does not imo. I'm probably not being as clear as I'd like but any additional thoughts to be more clear will have to wait. I need to get out the door to pick Bear up from school. |
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03-03-2009, 06:08 PM | #52 |
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Ahhh........well, since we are using Story of the World (and it's activity books) with our co-op, I will say, Janice, that it sounds like what she is saying is that the books and things aren't coming FROM TWTM *book* (like I thought she was saying). It sounds like she's calling things like SOTW "TWTM". Is that kinda right??
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03-04-2009, 10:48 AM | #53 | |
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I've sometimes put texts on my PDA; that was nice for read-alouds. If I had a student who would read texts from a PDA, I would do more of that. But my sons want "real books." |
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03-05-2009, 01:44 PM | #54 | ||
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Also, do you hand them the reading schedule straight off of the website? |
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03-06-2009, 12:01 AM | #55 | |
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I make up daily schedules from the weekly reading schedule that's on the website, and they have their own copy of their daily schedules. My personality likes everything scheduled. |
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03-06-2009, 12:15 AM | #56 |
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Well, today I started considering using Abeka's DVD program for the older two next year--but was just informed that they may be doing away w/that, an converting to computer! I sure hope not- now that I finally decided to give the DVD's a try!! LOL Go figure!!
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03-16-2009, 11:10 AM | #57 | ||||
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The "not unschooling" paragraph on AO says (my paraphrase), 1. When your child has an interest in something you continue reading whatever wonderful classic you are already reading 2. You give them plenty of free time to pursue their new interest. Most unschoolers who do choose to introduce their children to subjects they would not have otherwise noticed or thought to read about, but a few do not. So I am not sure that is really the difference I would describe. There are important differences though in the goals of a CMM education. I think the most major difference is in the focus of teaching a child to be able to direct their own will (or the subject of self discipline), Quote:
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03-16-2009, 08:36 PM | #58 | ||
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If you look at CM's own curriculum (and I think it's fair and accurate to state that pure CM would be epitomized by how CM did it herself), what she was doing was very far removed from unschooling. These schedules were what she had home-bound students doing as well as her schools. Not to say that someone couldn't combine the two into their own very effective method of relaxed, child-centered learning - but then it wouldn't be purely CM or purely unschooling. It would be positive aspects of both. |
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