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Old 04-05-2012, 11:27 AM   #31
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and, back to Stacy's derail - why do countries have to close down their orphanages in order to join the EU?!
I'm not really sure. Bulgaria still has them and they are EU, but they had to clean them up quite a bit before joining. I'm pretty sure the EU prefers the foster care system, but there probably weren't enough foster parent volunteers to take in all of the kids. Maybe Romania's orphanages were beyond cleaning up to EU standards, so they shut them down instead. That's total speculation, but educated speculation, having lived in Moldova and visited Romania multiple times, including two Romanian orphanages in 2001.
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Romanian orphanages are infamous in Europe I think. certainly in the UK. they used (in the 90s) to be absolutely atrocious for the main part. I had understood they were much better and didn't know that the EU had asked for closure but it may be linked to the historical stuff. or maybe they hadn't cleaned all of them up that much
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Old 04-05-2012, 12:43 PM   #33
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What I am learning in this thread shines a new light on the Williams Tragedy.

I'm considering linking to this thread in that post, since it is public. What do you all think?
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What I am learning in this thread shines a new light on the Williams Tragedy.

I'm considering linking to this thread in that post, since it is public. What do you all think?
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Old 04-05-2012, 12:49 PM   #35
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If the info here was not meant to be public, please remove it. I was not planning to copy anything, only to link to what is already a public thread which is probably being indexed by Google even as we speak. If the info is going to be removed, I will not bother to link.
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For general adoption information PLEASE spin off a thread in the adoption forum.
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a thread already exists, actually:

http://gentlechristianmothers.com/co...d.php?t=443716

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a thread already exists, actually:

http://gentlechristianmothers.com/co...d.php?t=443716

but I meant a public thread, like this one.
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Really looking forward to the article & book. I know some Above Rubies fans and I imagine they're quite clueless about all of this.
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I'm looking forward to the article, too. I know several Above Rubies fans, and one of which the family that adopted from Liberia. Some are not clueless, and it's sad to watch from the outside, what little the outside world is allowed to see.
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I am horrified by this.
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I've never heard of any of this. It's disturbing and interesting.
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I haven't heard about any of this, but am extremely interested and will say I had looked into above rubies before as Dh and I are boarding on quiverfull...we'll see how true it ends up being.

Her recommendation of "Primal Wound" discredits anything she could possibly have to say in my book. Seriously, that book is horrible. Crude, horrible and misleading. As a women who was not raised by her birth mother I can honestly say this is the most offensive 'adoption' book. Not pro and does excuse adoptive parents of all responsibility.
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I haven't heard about any of this, but am extremely interested and will say I had looked into above rubies before as Dh and I are boarding on quiverfull...we'll see how true it ends up being.

Her recommendation of "Primal Wound" discredits anything she could possibly have to say in my book. Seriously, that book is horrible. Crude, horrible and misleading. As a women who was not raised by her birth mother I can honestly say this is the most offensive 'adoption' book. Not pro and does excuse adoptive parents of all responsibility.
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