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Old 10-04-2017, 06:10 PM   #1
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Default Rant: "extremes" and logical fallacies in discussions

This is NOT about any conversation I've seen on GCM but about conversations, discussions, and debates I've seen mostly on facebook.
I'm so tired of people jumping to the EXTREMES in arguments.

We've all heard the "If you don't spank they'll never learn" "If you don't punish they will be spoiled brats and go to jail" "If you don't (something unnecessarily harsh) they won't learn that the real world is harsh and unforgiving and they will expect the world to bow to their whims and not be able to function in the real world"

I love having good discussions about many, many topics under the sun. Esp gentle parenting, vaccines, circumcision, bible, spanking, CIO, unschooling/homeschooling. I don't even mind when they get heated. I do mind when someone says "we should spank because toddlers will die if they run into the road!!!" That is an extreme situation. Most of what we are talking about are toddlers pulling down stacks of folded laundry , screaming over a cup of water , or loving a baby a little too enthusiastically

I'm currently looking for a good article and/or youtube video on how to discuss/debate a topic well that I can post everytime someone uses an extreme/rare situation as a blanket example of why it's appropriate all the time in all situations; and logical fallacies.

Also While I understand logical fallacies I have to constantly go back and read about them because I forget their names etc, get them mixed up. It is so frustrating because I can't just point out the problems with someone's arguments, I have to go research it and by the time it is done often the opportunity to point it out is over.

Anyone else struggling with this?
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Old 10-04-2017, 07:38 PM   #2
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Default Re: Rant: "extremes" and logical fallacies in discussions

Like the CNN lawyer who said she wasn't sorry for the "Republicans" who died in Vegas?

.......

I am guilty of doing this 1. when it's a passionate issue for me
2. when I am emotional for whatever reason.....whether or not it's related to the conversation

........

Did you realize this was in a public forum?
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Old 10-04-2017, 08:05 PM   #3
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Default Re: Rant: "extremes" and logical fallacies in discussions

Yes. That's fine.
I may change the title. I realized I really want a discussion about having a good discussion/debate and how to deal with people who use extremes and logical fallacies in their arguments.

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"If punishment were necessarily reformative, and able to cure us all of those 'sins we have a mind to,' why, the world would be a very good world;" -Charlotte Mason, Parents and Children pg. 172

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Old 10-04-2017, 08:25 PM   #4
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Default Re: Rant: "extremes" and logical fallacies in discussions

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Yes. That's fine.
I may change the title. I realized I really want a discussion about having a good discussion/debate and how to deal with people who use extremes and logical fallacies in their arguments.

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I thought I was replying to that want.

"how to deal with people who use extremes and logical fallacies"

like me



I think you deal with me just fine.

Give the same grace you give to me to others on the Internet.

I think the internet is a poor substitute for real communication, and it's even easier to lose your mind here. ie say stuff you wouldn't say to a person, let alone a friend, in person. Like you'd think more before speaking?
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Old 10-04-2017, 08:40 PM   #5
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Default Re: Rant: "extremes" and logical fallacies in discussions

You did

I just realized people may interpret my post through my title which is mostly saying this is a rant, which it partially is but I also want a conversation about how to handle this and not fall into the traps ourselves. I've been guilty in the past as well.

While the internet isn't always the best place for these discussions, more and more it's becoming the most common place to have these discussions and resources on how to discuss these well and accurately and well is information I want close by and easy to to pass on to those who want/need it.


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"If punishment were necessarily reformative, and able to cure us all of those 'sins we have a mind to,' why, the world would be a very good world;" -Charlotte Mason, Parents and Children pg. 172

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Old 10-04-2017, 11:17 PM   #6
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Default Re: Rant: "extremes" and logical fallacies in discussions

At some point, I changed how I talk to most people in group discussions. I tend to ask questions in the direction I want to go rather than state info. Group discussions are really hard, they are so much more productive when 1:1.

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Default Re: Rant: "extremes" and logical fallacies in discussions

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I'm currently looking for a good article and/or youtube video on how to discuss/debate a topic well that I can post everytime someone uses an extreme/rare situation as a blanket example of why it's appropriate all the time in all situations; and logical fallacies.
That would be a good thing to have.
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Old 10-05-2017, 05:33 AM   #8
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Default Re: Rant: "extremes" and logical fallacies in discussions

Mayflower I just watched a good video on YouTube about developing a good discussion questions.

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Have you read Nonviolent Communication?
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Yes, but not in a while.
I own it on audible. I need to listen. To it again.

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"If punishment were necessarily reformative, and able to cure us all of those 'sins we have a mind to,' why, the world would be a very good world;" -Charlotte Mason, Parents and Children pg. 172

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Default Re: Rant: "extremes" and logical fallacies in discussions

I know what you mean. For me the problem has been the venue. I feel like here on GCM or places where people are connected in some way, the issue doesn't arise as often and when it does, someone calls them on it.

But in the world of facebook it seems like it doesn't matter what you say, someone....probably someone you don't know and maybe your facebook friend barely knows....jumps to an extreme. I'm a white, female anthropologist married to a federal cop parenting two white young adult females and a Native American/Hispanic son without spanking or permissiveness, work for an African American boss and dh works for an Hispanic boss....I live my life in the 'gray zone'...and I like it that way. Extremes have no place in my world. The negativity it brings is beyond me right now.

Honestly I commend you for wanting to continue a conversation after the 'everyone is going to die if you don't agree with me' bomb goes off. If I can ignore it, it try. More often than not, if I want to communicate with my facebook friend on the subject after that, I take it to PM.
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You could search for a good meme that addresses this and save it to your computer/device for easy posting whenever the issue arises.
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I'm wondering if it's at all connected to the thirst for likes and comments. Rational,open-minded discussion doesn't get as much attention?
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"All generalizations are false." I say this often in response to comments from others but also to myself when I am being judgemental and presumptuous.
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Default Re: Rant: "extremes" and logical fallacies in discussions

Celtic Journey - I agree it is about the level of connection.
I usually can just took my eyes, laugh and either call them out or leave the conversation.
I like to continue after the extremes even with people I know I'll never convince because I feel it's important to address the crazy for those who are quietly following the conversation and interested. Once they cross the line ok not doing it for the other party, but for the quiet readers.

Deena - I like the meme idea a lot.

Beth 1231 that's a good point it definitely could be part of the issue.

RiverRock - I love that quote excellent reminder to all in the conversation.

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  • postbit_imicons
  • bbcode_parse_complete_precache
  • bbcode_parse_complete
  • postbit_display_complete
  • error_fetch
  • pagenav_page
  • pagenav_complete
  • tag_fetchbit_complete
  • forumrules
  • showthread_bookmarkbit
  • navbits
  • navbits_complete
  • showthread_complete