That Dobson quote about the dog is in post 13

deena · 05-15-2011, 11:57 AM

I was looking for two quotes and a bunch of people helped. The dog show-down is in post 13. It's a revealing peek at Dobson discipline advice.

gpsings · 05-15-2011, 01:13 PM

I have the strong will child...how can I help?

deena · 05-16-2011, 05:47 AM

I'm not sure if it's in the original, but could you check pages 125-130? I'm looking for an article quoted in those pages. I want the quote about hitting a toddler who hits or the toddler's "hitting will persist or even escalate".

Also, I don't know if the story of disciplining his dog is in that book? Do you remember by any chance?

gpsings · 05-16-2011, 10:49 AM

I made a huge mistake! My Parenting the Strong Willed Child is not by Dobson.

...not the same book at all.

I'm sorry.

deena · 05-16-2011, 11:04 AM

Well, you don't need a Dobson discipline book on your shelf anyway, so that's ok.

solatido · 05-16-2011, 11:20 AM

I have the new DtD and will flip through it. We may have the strong willed child but I'm pretty sure it's the old one. I'm not entirely sure where it is.

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Found something on pg 80 where he drags the dog to get a ball, then rewards it with a cookie. Is that the story?

deena · 05-16-2011, 11:41 AM

The dog story I'm thinking about is like this huge show down between him and the dog. I could have sworn it was in the bathroom but that could be my imagination. Basically, he had to "win at all costs".

solatido · 05-16-2011, 01:50 PM

I don't think it's in DtD then and we don't have SWC, but we are going to church and I bet it's in the library. I will check if at all possible.

joysworld · 05-16-2011, 03:02 PM

I do remember the show down story between him and his dog. I *think* I have both books, but, everything here is packed. (we are moving later this week). I have a trip to the library to make today, and I believe they have both books. I'll look it up for you, if you haven't gotten your answer

deena · 05-16-2011, 03:38 PM

Wow, I really appreciate all the willingness to help.

solatido · 05-16-2011, 03:52 PM

Found it but I'm at church on my phone. Will type up later tonight.

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It is on p 13 in the old version if someone else beats me to it... Strong willed child, that is...

gpsings · 05-16-2011, 04:17 PM

HA! I just found the book at a thrift store for .25!

Looking...

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Reading bits here and there....makes me feel icky...need a shower now.

Couldn't find it though.

Still looking. Will burn book later.

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OK, my p13 has an analogy about a grocery cart. I still can't find it...

joysworld · 05-16-2011, 04:45 PM

On page 80 of 'The New Dare to Discipline', it talks about his dog Siggy, but he is talking about the law of reinforcement. I've gone through the whole book of TNDTD, and the story of winning at all costs with his dog is not in it. Before I came, the library had Strong Willed Child here, but I got here, and it was checked out.

I did google, and found this. So, it's in The Strong Willed Child, I just don't have access to it at the moment.

"Please don't misunderstand me. Siggie is a member of our family and we love him dearly. And despite his anarchistic nature, I have finally taught him to obey a few simple commands. However, we had some classic battles before he reluctantly yielded to my authority.

"The greatest confrontation occurred a few years ago when I had been in Miami for a three-day conference. I returned to observe that Siggie had become boss of the house while I was gone. But I didn't realize until later that evening just how strongly he felt about his new position as Captain.

"At eleven o'clock that night, I told Siggie to go get into his bed, which is a permanent enclosure in the family room. For six years I had given him that order at the end of each day, and for six years Siggie had obeyed."
-- The Strong Willed Child

http://www.worldcat.org/wcpa/servlet...1&excerpt=true

everydaygrace · 05-16-2011, 05:19 PM

Oh wow. Thats horrible.

05-16-2011, 07:26 PM

Not only is that horrible from a parenting standpoint, but anyone who knows anything about dog training would feel

and

after reading that!

05-15-2011, 11:57 AM	#1
deena Rose Garden Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 12,314	That Dobson quote about the dog is in post 13 I was looking for two quotes and a bunch of people helped. The dog show-down is in post 13. It's a revealing peek at Dobson discipline advice. __________________ My kiddos 26, 23, 19, 15, 12, 8, 2, <1 Last edited by deena; 05-26-2011 at 05:38 AM.

05-15-2011, 01:13 PM	#2
gpsings Rose Garden ORANGE you glad I made a new avatar? :D Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 4,084	Re: Do u own The New Strong Willed Childor Dare to Discipline and want to do me a fav I have the strong will child...how can I help? __________________ Gretchen ENTP Wife of Kevin Blessed AP, Homeschooling mama to: Aneliese age 13, Breena age 10, and Caden age 7

05-16-2011, 05:47 AM	#3
deena Rose Garden Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 12,314	Re: Do u own The New Strong Willed Childor Dare to Discipline and want to do me a fav I'm not sure if it's in the original, but could you check pages 125-130? I'm looking for an article quoted in those pages. I want the quote about hitting a toddler who hits or the toddler's "hitting will persist or even escalate". Also, I don't know if the story of disciplining his dog is in that book? Do you remember by any chance? __________________ My kiddos 26, 23, 19, 15, 12, 8, 2, <1

05-16-2011, 10:49 AM	#4
gpsings Rose Garden ORANGE you glad I made a new avatar? :D Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 4,084	Re: Do u own The New Strong Willed Childor Dare to Discipline and want to do me a fav I made a huge mistake! My Parenting the Strong Willed Child is not by Dobson. ...not the same book at all. I'm sorry. __________________ Gretchen ENTP Wife of Kevin Blessed AP, Homeschooling mama to: Aneliese age 13, Breena age 10, and Caden age 7

05-16-2011, 11:04 AM	#5
deena Rose Garden Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 12,314	Re: Do u own The New Strong Willed Childor Dare to Discipline and want to do me a fav Well, you don't need a Dobson discipline book on your shelf anyway, so that's ok. __________________ My kiddos 26, 23, 19, 15, 12, 8, 2, <1

05-16-2011, 11:20 AM	#6
solatido Rose Trellis Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 3,272	Re: Do u own The New Strong Willed Childor Dare to Discipline and want to do me a fav I have the new DtD and will flip through it. We may have the strong willed child but I'm pretty sure it's the old one. I'm not entirely sure where it is. ---------- Post added at 02:20 PM ---------- Previous post was at 02:13 PM ---------- Found something on pg 80 where he drags the dog to get a ball, then rewards it with a cookie. Is that the story? __________________ Harmoniously married since 2006 to my wonderful DH SAHM to T, born 7/09, H, born 5/12, J, born 9/14, and V, born 5/17

05-16-2011, 11:41 AM	#7
deena Rose Garden Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 12,314	Re: Do u own The New Strong Willed Childor Dare to Discipline and want to do me a fav The dog story I'm thinking about is like this huge show down between him and the dog. I could have sworn it was in the bathroom but that could be my imagination. Basically, he had to "win at all costs". __________________ My kiddos 26, 23, 19, 15, 12, 8, 2, <1

05-16-2011, 01:50 PM	#8
solatido Rose Trellis Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 3,272	Re: Do u own The New Strong Willed Childor Dare to Discipline and want to do me a fav I don't think it's in DtD then and we don't have SWC, but we are going to church and I bet it's in the library. I will check if at all possible. __________________ Harmoniously married since 2006 to my wonderful DH SAHM to T, born 7/09, H, born 5/12, J, born 9/14, and V, born 5/17

05-16-2011, 03:02 PM	#9
joysworld Deactivated ~I choose joy~ Join Date: May 2011 Location: Texas Posts: 4,763	Re: Do u own The New Strong Willed Childor Dare to Discipline and want to do me a fav I do remember the show down story between him and his dog. I think I have both books, but, everything here is packed. (we are moving later this week). I have a trip to the library to make today, and I believe they have both books. I'll look it up for you, if you haven't gotten your answer

05-16-2011, 03:38 PM	#10
deena Rose Garden Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 12,314	Re: Do u own The New Strong Willed Childor Dare to Discipline and want to do me a fav Wow, I really appreciate all the willingness to help. __________________ My kiddos 26, 23, 19, 15, 12, 8, 2, <1

05-16-2011, 03:52 PM	#11
solatido Rose Trellis Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 3,272	Re: Do u own The New Strong Willed Childor Dare to Discipline and want to do me a fav Found it but I'm at church on my phone. Will type up later tonight. ---------- Post added at 06:52 PM ---------- Previous post was at 06:49 PM ---------- It is on p 13 in the old version if someone else beats me to it... Strong willed child, that is... __________________ Harmoniously married since 2006 to my wonderful DH SAHM to T, born 7/09, H, born 5/12, J, born 9/14, and V, born 5/17

05-16-2011, 04:17 PM	#12
gpsings Rose Garden ORANGE you glad I made a new avatar? :D Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 4,084	Re: Do u own The New Strong Willed Childor Dare to Discipline and want to do me a fav HA! I just found the book at a thrift store for .25! Looking... ---------- Post added at 03:13 PM ---------- Previous post was at 02:59 PM ---------- Reading bits here and there....makes me feel icky...need a shower now. Couldn't find it though. Still looking. Will burn book later. ---------- Post added at 03:17 PM ---------- Previous post was at 03:13 PM ---------- OK, my p13 has an analogy about a grocery cart. I still can't find it... __________________ Gretchen ENTP Wife of Kevin Blessed AP, Homeschooling mama to: Aneliese age 13, Breena age 10, and Caden age 7

05-16-2011, 04:45 PM	#13
joysworld Deactivated ~I choose joy~ Join Date: May 2011 Location: Texas Posts: 4,763	Re: Do u own The New Strong Willed Childor Dare to Discipline and want to do me a fav On page 80 of 'The New Dare to Discipline', it talks about his dog Siggy, but he is talking about the law of reinforcement. I've gone through the whole book of TNDTD, and the story of winning at all costs with his dog is not in it. Before I came, the library had Strong Willed Child here, but I got here, and it was checked out. I did google, and found this. So, it's in The Strong Willed Child, I just don't have access to it at the moment. "Please don't misunderstand me. Siggie is a member of our family and we love him dearly. And despite his anarchistic nature, I have finally taught him to obey a few simple commands. However, we had some classic battles before he reluctantly yielded to my authority. "The greatest confrontation occurred a few years ago when I had been in Miami for a three-day conference. I returned to observe that Siggie had become boss of the house while I was gone. But I didn't realize until later that evening just how strongly he felt about his new position as Captain. "At eleven o'clock that night, I told Siggie to go get into his bed, which is a permanent enclosure in the family room. For six years I had given him that order at the end of each day, and for six years Siggie had obeyed." -- The Strong Willed Child http://www.worldcat.org/wcpa/servlet...1&excerpt=true Last edited by katiekind; 05-17-2011 at 04:03 PM. Reason: brought into line with GCM copyright policy

05-16-2011, 05:19 PM	#14
everydaygrace Climbing Rose Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: SW Virginia Posts: 1,173	Re: Do u own The New Strong Willed Childor Dare to Discipline and want to do me a fav Oh wow. Thats horrible. __________________ Wife to Jack of All Trades since 2007. Mama to WiggleWorm (DS, 6/2010) and Snugglebug (DD, 12/12).

05-16-2011, 07:26 PM	#15
mathematicalmessymamma Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Do u own The New Strong Willed Childor Dare to Discipline and want to do me a fav Not only is that horrible from a parenting standpoint, but anyone who knows anything about dog training would feel and after reading that!

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