People still use Babywise?! AKA: thank you for the resources!

[SewingGreenMama]

I've not heard about it in years. But a mom in one of my Christian fb mom groups just mentioned she uses it and my jaw hit the floor.
Thank you for the Resources here. She mentioned it as a good resource to a mom of 4 struggling with a difficult sleeper.
I was able to quickly link to resources so she would know the dangers of that book.

I'm now looking for alternative resources for helping baby sleep.

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[Hermana Linda]

Wow! I didn't think anyone was still using it either.

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[FlyingBlueKiwi]

Elizabeth Pantley as an alternative resource.

[SewingGreenMama]

The mom needing help just admitted she used it with her others and said she was trying other things with this babe because he was not calming down and working himself into a mess.
I've honestly never had a difficult sleeper and have always bed shared. IDK what are good resources.

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---------- Post added at 11:14 PM ---------- Previous post was at 11:13 PM ----------

Originally Posted by FlyingBlueKiwi

Elizabeth Pantley as an alternative resource.

Thank you!

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[Soliloquy]

I've never had an easy sleeper and it's very important for her to know that it's NORMAL and OKAY. It's not easy, of course, but it doesn't mean she's doing something wrong. It is biologically normal for babies to wake to feed during the night.

A baby showing signs of discomfort or pain is another thing but sleep training isn't the answer for that, obviously.

[Beatrice]

This mom that you mention really needs help. It's one of the most dangerous sources that can find in my opinion. I think you should talk to her and explain it. Hope everything is going to be okay.

[SewingGreenMama]

Originally Posted by Beatrice

This mom that you mention really needs help. It's one of the most dangerous sources that can find in my opinion. I think you should talk to her and explain it. Hope everything is going to be okay.

She was alarmed by what I shared in my post about BW and the Ezzo's and said she would read the links.
I'm really saddened and disheartened that more of these women I've come to care for are stepping up admitting to using BW or a modified versions of CIO.
Praying for Grace and a loving tone to open hearts and minds.

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[rjy9343]

I had the world champion for worst sleeper. There is a reason I have five years between my children and even at ten and five, they wake up at night. I get the why behind it, she's desperate for sleep. I completely understand why she would even consider it.
That being said, I never did it. For Ivy, I took the side off of a crib and put it against my bed and I think we tied the legs to the bed, but it's been so long I can't remember. For Jacob, I put a bedrail on a very firm twin mattress and put it against my bed. Both of them would need to nurse frequently, but slept much better because they didn't have time to fully wake up and fell back asleep while nursing. I usually fell asleep pretty quickly afterwards and was much less tired.
Assuming her baby isn't dealing with colic, allergies, reflux or other medical issues, then her baby might just need to be reassured that everyone is still there and he or she is still safe. That's normal and baby will outgrow it.
I guess my point is to give you something a friend tried and liked. CIO isn't the answer, but it's a very socially acceptable thing to do, so here we are. Add in a the moral issues that BW and others assign sleeping through the night, then it's very hard not to do it.