the problem I'm having with going vegan

greendelight · 01-04-2008, 10:26 AM

I could be vegan. I want to be vegan. I can do without/find healthy substitutes for everything except butter! I bought the Earth Balance...and it tastes good. The only problem that I'm having is that my goal is to eat as naturally as possible, meaning simple ingredients, minimally processed. When I look at the ingredients for EB, I just think, "Wow." Butter just seems so much more natural and simple (ingredients: cream).

FWIW, I also have this issue with veggie "meats." I look at the ingredients for the meatballs, burgers, etc., and it's just so much complicated stuff.

poleidopy · 01-04-2008, 10:30 AM

I feel the same way. Now I just avoid all those things except for the occasional gardenburger if I eat out.

rstump · 01-04-2008, 10:37 AM

Personally when I went vegan...i just didn't do substitutes. No soy. I think substitutes defeats the purpose. It is like.....I need animal products.....just using a poor substitute.

I like you cut out butter and use something like EVOO or coconut oil.

poleidopy · 01-04-2008, 10:46 AM

Isn't there a WHipped olive oil out there that's the consistency of butter?

erh384 · 01-04-2008, 08:48 PM

We've use lentils/peas in place of ground meat... its not a perfect substitution, just an idea.

HuggaBuggaMommy · 01-04-2008, 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by poleidopy

I feel the same way. Now I just avoid all those things except for the occasional gardenburger if I eat out.

poleidopy · 01-04-2008, 09:50 PM

yeah, punkie posted an awesome vegan chickpea burger recipe. THe only problem is that it serves 20.

flowermama · 01-04-2008, 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by rstump

I think substitutes defeats the purpose. It is like.....I need animal products.....just using a poor substitute.

Well, for me personally I don't feel it defeats the purpose.

A main reason I am vegan is because I don't want to eat animals or to support industries that hurt animals, and I am very grateful for imitation products so I want to say a word in their support.

My husband loves the meat substitutes, and I'd far rather cook those for him than animals (that's an understatement

). I'm also cooking for my MIL who is not vegetarian, and I'm trying my best to make food that looks as familiar to her as possible. I can make pretty good "chicken" noodle soup using cut up imitation chicken strips, and she really seems to like the Gardenburger Riblets and even eats Smart Dogs. woohoo!

Anyway, though, without a doubt one can be vegan without using them, and eating non-processed is truly better for you.

We eat Earth Balance so I'm not sure of any substitute that is better that is similar to butter in taste or consistency

I thought that EB was pretty good for you because it uses healthy oils.

For me, an important factor is that though butter may be made with something "natural," cream is still made from cow's milk, and cows' milk was designed specifically for baby cows and there are health concerns involved with humans consuming it.

p.s. chickpea burgers are yummy! you can do so much with chickpeas; we love 'em.

ShangriLewis · 01-07-2008, 07:34 AM

I

Earth Balance. I think it's better than butter, so I guess I'm used to it now.

But, almond butter is really good on toast and a must healthier option to boot. It has a good amount of calcium per serving.

allisonintx · 01-16-2008, 04:11 PM

what about coconut oil. The "refined for high heat" is just like butter to me, and I'm a pretty picky eater.

poleidopy · 01-16-2008, 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Allison In TX

what about coconut oil. The "refined for high heat" is just like butter to me, and I'm a pretty picky eater.

thanks for posting that. I was wondering the other day how it would taste on toast or an english muffin or something.

ShangriLewis · 01-17-2008, 10:00 PM

I forgot to mention...if you put olive oil in the fridge in a small container it will harden. A large container takes longer. I like to heat it a bit with some herbs like rosemary and then put in the fridge. Once it hardens you can spread it on things or just put a little on pasta and feel like you are buttering it.

poleidopy · 01-17-2008, 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by ShangriLewis

I forgot to mention...if you put olive oil in the fridge in a small container it will harden. A large container takes longer. I like to heat it a bit with some herbs like rosemary and then put in the fridge. Once it hardens you can spread it on things or just put a little on pasta and feel like you are buttering it.

What a good idea!!

Punkie · 01-18-2008, 08:46 AM

Has anyone tried the chickpea cutlets in veganomicon? http://www.chow.com/recipes/11364 They are raving about them at MDC.

We use Earth Balance, so I can't be much of a help there, but I totally agree that I'd rather eat a processed product like EB rather than a pesticide-pumped, pus-filled dairy product.

I try to avoid processed foods, but I don't mind eating them occasionally.

allisonintx · 01-18-2008, 08:49 AM

I've used coconut oil on everything that I would have used butter on, and been very happy with it. In fact, even when the Daniel Fast is over, I'm so sold that I'm going to keep using it.

01-04-2008, 10:26 AM	#1
greendelight Rose Trellis Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 2,124	the problem I'm having with going vegan I could be vegan. I want to be vegan. I can do without/find healthy substitutes for everything except butter! I bought the Earth Balance...and it tastes good. The only problem that I'm having is that my goal is to eat as naturally as possible, meaning simple ingredients, minimally processed. When I look at the ingredients for EB, I just think, "Wow." Butter just seems so much more natural and simple (ingredients: cream). FWIW, I also have this issue with veggie "meats." I look at the ingredients for the meatballs, burgers, etc., and it's just so much complicated stuff. __________________ Nickie wife to dh since 12/20/03 mama to dd since 5/24/10

01-04-2008, 10:30 AM	#2
poleidopy Deactivated Lord, make me an instrument of thy peace. Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Where I'm loved. Posts: 16,592	Re: the problem I'm having with going vegan I feel the same way. Now I just avoid all those things except for the occasional gardenburger if I eat out.

01-04-2008, 10:37 AM	#3
rstump Rose Trellis Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Ormond Beach, FL Posts: 3,068	Re: the problem I'm having with going vegan Personally when I went vegan...i just didn't do substitutes. No soy. I think substitutes defeats the purpose. It is like.....I need animal products.....just using a poor substitute. I like you cut out butter and use something like EVOO or coconut oil. __________________ Blessings, Renee Apple to Forrest // Romans 8:28 Crunchy Christian AP HS Traditional Foods Mama to Brittany, Madalynn, David, Ellie & Abbie Remembering our babies: 3/92 1/93 11/07

01-04-2008, 10:46 AM	#4
poleidopy Deactivated Lord, make me an instrument of thy peace. Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Where I'm loved. Posts: 16,592	Re: the problem I'm having with going vegan Isn't there a WHipped olive oil out there that's the consistency of butter?

01-04-2008, 08:48 PM	#5
erh384 Rose Trellis Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 2,459	Re: the problem I'm having with going vegan We've use lentils/peas in place of ground meat... its not a perfect substitution, just an idea. __________________ Wife to my black-belt since 12/04 mom to: one sweet girl 12/06 one snuggly boy 8/10

01-04-2008, 09:50 PM	#7
poleidopy Deactivated Lord, make me an instrument of thy peace. Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Where I'm loved. Posts: 16,592	Re: the problem I'm having with going vegan yeah, punkie posted an awesome vegan chickpea burger recipe. THe only problem is that it serves 20.

01-07-2008, 07:34 AM	#9
ShangriLewis Moderator in Vegetarianism & Veganism Arrange whatever pieces come your way. ~VW~ Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: North Dakota Posts: 16,446	Re: the problem I'm having with going vegan I Earth Balance. I think it's better than butter, so I guess I'm used to it now. But, almond butter is really good on toast and a must healthier option to boot. It has a good amount of calcium per serving. __________________ Heather The Prophet 23yob, The Peacemaker 20yob, The Warrior 17, The Little Flower 11yog and The Surfer 9yob and our little birdie girl 4yo.

01-16-2008, 04:11 PM	#10
allisonintx Rose Garden Some Cal/Mag will probably fix that. Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: catching up on the laundry Posts: 41,294	Re: the problem I'm having with going vegan what about coconut oil. The "refined for high heat" is just like butter to me, and I'm a pretty picky eater. __________________ allisonintx Wife to Stephen Mother to Elizabeth 19, Andrew 17, Abigail 14 & Evelyn 12 Love. You can learn all the math in the 'verse, but you take a boat in the air that you don't love, she'll shake you off just as sure as the turn of the world. Love keeps her in the air when she ought to fall down. Tells you she's hurting before she keens. Makes her a home. . . . . . . .

01-17-2008, 10:00 PM	#12
ShangriLewis Moderator in Vegetarianism & Veganism Arrange whatever pieces come your way. ~VW~ Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: North Dakota Posts: 16,446	Re: the problem I'm having with going vegan I forgot to mention...if you put olive oil in the fridge in a small container it will harden. A large container takes longer. I like to heat it a bit with some herbs like rosemary and then put in the fridge. Once it hardens you can spread it on things or just put a little on pasta and feel like you are buttering it. __________________ Heather The Prophet 23yob, The Peacemaker 20yob, The Warrior 17, The Little Flower 11yog and The Surfer 9yob and our little birdie girl 4yo.

01-18-2008, 08:46 AM	#14
Punkie Administrator Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 20,092	Re: the problem I'm having with going vegan Has anyone tried the chickpea cutlets in veganomicon? http://www.chow.com/recipes/11364 They are raving about them at MDC. We use Earth Balance, so I can't be much of a help there, but I totally agree that I'd rather eat a processed product like EB rather than a pesticide-pumped, pus-filled dairy product. I try to avoid processed foods, but I don't mind eating them occasionally. __________________ GCM Admin and Moderator in Questions About the Message Board, Drawing Closer, Let's Talk, Weight Management, In the News, and Electronics. Homeschooling mom to 4, certified herbalist, homesteader, and overly ambitious crafter

01-18-2008, 08:49 AM	#15
allisonintx Rose Garden Some Cal/Mag will probably fix that. Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: catching up on the laundry Posts: 41,294	Re: the problem I'm having with going vegan I've used coconut oil on everything that I would have used butter on, and been very happy with it. In fact, even when the Daniel Fast is over, I'm so sold that I'm going to keep using it. __________________ allisonintx Wife to Stephen Mother to Elizabeth 19, Andrew 17, Abigail 14 & Evelyn 12 Love. You can learn all the math in the 'verse, but you take a boat in the air that you don't love, she'll shake you off just as sure as the turn of the world. Love keeps her in the air when she ought to fall down. Tells you she's hurting before she keens. Makes her a home. . . . . . . .

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