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07-21-2007, 05:56 AM | #16 |
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Re: psychological torture as 'creative correction'
This is one of the few books that I wanted years ago but didn't have money for. I'm glad I didn't now. Thankfully the only bad idea I got from her was the Tabasco thing and that didn't work. My daughter LOVES spicy hot foods! She puts hot sauce on everything. All that other stuff seems like total human rights violations.
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07-21-2007, 06:20 AM | #17 |
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Re: psychological torture as 'creative correction'
The book is awful. Just sickening. And it's made worse that *so* many people see it as a better alternative to spanking.
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07-22-2007, 09:40 PM | #18 | |
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07-22-2007, 09:46 PM | #19 |
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Re: psychological torture as 'creative correction'
that's a really interesting correlation
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08-02-2007, 11:45 AM | #20 |
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Re: psychological torture as 'creative correction'
GIRLS I AM SO EXCITED!!! I was at the park with the lady in charge of our mother's library at church, and I was explaining that I might not be participating in the mother's group next year, partially because of the issues I have had with some of the books in the library (Sheparding, and Creative Correction). I had already spoken with her about CC, but reiterated my original points, and added Atarah's reasoning from this post, and she agreed to remove it from the library!!! Thank you Atarah for presenting your thought here so that I could share it and have this great result.
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08-02-2007, 12:45 PM | #21 |
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for speaking up about it to the 'lady in charge'. That is exciting to have it removed.
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08-03-2007, 06:45 PM | #22 | |
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03-06-2011, 03:30 PM | #23 |
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03-07-2011, 07:06 AM | #24 |
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Re: psychological torture as 'creative correction'
I believe the op, so don't misunderstand me when I ask for any sort of documentation to back up what you have said. I ask because I have thought that some these things are forbidden by the Geneva Convention, but have no idea where to even start to look for that kind of information. I am already catching some grief for the way I parent and do not expect that to change any time soon. I would like to be able to say look at such and such and tell if you see any parallels or that is not allowed for enemy combatants, why on earth is it okay for kids?
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03-07-2011, 07:32 AM | #25 | |
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03-07-2011, 08:24 AM | #26 |
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I'm sure some of it is prohibited by Geneva convention. But like Clara mentioned, it's not about what the U.S. does to it's prisoners. It's about training our military to be prepared for what might happen to them if they are captured by others.
The training, BTW, is all 'classified', but I tried to be vague enough so as to not 'share' stuff I shouldn't. And things may have changed in the interim. This was 20 years ago. But yes, that someone would encourage parents to treat a child in a manner that could be considered an 'international war crime' in certain contexts; that is appalling. |
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03-07-2011, 08:37 AM | #27 |
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Re: psychological torture as 'creative correction'
I know not all countries abide by the Geneva Convention, (intrestingly, the ones that do abide by it for the most part rarely go to war). I did not think about it being classified , so maybe my great idea is not as good as I hoped. But all the same, there has to be something that I could find. Maybe there are some human rights groups that would have something I could use. I know I am one person and I cannot combat all the evil that passes for Christian parenting, but I want to make as many cracks in it as possible and that seems like a great place to start. (Not discounting raising my own kids, just thinking that the shock value would be good for those that would disagree).
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03-08-2011, 10:01 PM | #28 |
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Re: psychological torture as 'creative correction'
Thank you for sharing that perspective.
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03-18-2011, 07:15 PM | #29 |
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Re: psychological torture as 'creative correction'
I remember Dave Roever wrote about some of the training they did in Welcome Home, Davey.
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03-29-2011, 10:06 PM | #30 |
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Re: psychological torture as 'creative correction'
So... um... Atarah. Have you read the whole book yet? I'm dying to hear your full, revised thoughts.
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