SACH review - Page 3

09-18-2009, 10:38 AM

Rereading this and bumping as I believe I saw someone asking about it.

amyhntr2 · 05-03-2012, 09:53 PM

I know this is an older post but I just wanted to say thank you for taking the time to write it! I found it extremely helpful!

Rugayatu · 05-08-2012, 12:23 PM

Wow, this has been such a helpful post to me! I read SACH last year while visiting my parents and found myself agreeing and appreciating so much of the first parts of the book. Then got to the "rod" chapters and just felt like it was a complete disconnect from what he had been saying in previous chapters! Seeing it summed up like this is so helpful in thinking back over what I read.

Hermana Linda · 05-08-2012, 06:39 PM

Thank you for bumping it. I have taken this opportunity to sticky it.

Annalou · 07-26-2012, 02:03 PM

But what does God say? In 1 John, we read, " God is love. Whoever lives in love lives in God, and God in him. 17In this way, love is made complete among us so that we will have confidence on the day of judgment, because in this world we are like him. 18There is no fear in love. But perfect love drives out fear, because fear has to do with punishment. The one who fears is not made perfect in love."

"You, therefore, have no excuse, you who pass judgment on someone else, for at whatever point you judge the other, you are condemning yourself, because you who pass judgment do the same things. Now we know that God's judgment against those who do such things is based on truth. So when you, a mere man, pass judgment on them and yet do the same things, do you think you will escape God's judgment? Or do you show contempt for the riches of his kindness, tolerance and patience, not realizing that God's kindness leads you toward repentance?"[/QUOTE]
romans 2:1-4^

thank you for these verses!! I've never thought about it that way!!

MummyMenace · 05-13-2013, 10:06 AM

Thank you for sticking this up - I need to read this when I don't have help on my laptop!

Before coming on here (and talking to SalH) I hadn't heard of the Pearls and Ezzos, but had heard of Ted Tripp. So, I think I'll focus my reading on him as he's more popular in the UK. I will be back...

SalH · 05-14-2013, 02:35 AM

DId you see the review I linked to on fb a while ago? I've written my own twopennorth on SACH as well which I get out on special occasions if a debate with a friend calls for it.

I have it redlined and turned backwards on my shelf for future reference. Of the debating, not parenting, kind.

Hermana Linda · 05-14-2013, 11:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SalH

DId you see the review I linked to on fb a while ago? I've written my own twopennorth on SACH as well which I get out on special occasions if a debate with a friend calls for it.

I have it redlined and turned backwards on my shelf for future reference. Of the debating, not parenting, kind.

Have I linked to it? If not, please share the link.

SalH · 05-14-2013, 07:37 PM

Not sure, I think it was Dulce de Leche's on fb... I will check.

Hermana Linda · 05-15-2013, 06:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SalH

Not sure, I think it was Dulce de Leche's on fb... I will check.

I thought you said that you had written one?

Here is what I have now.

09-11-2013, 09:37 PM

I am glad I found this. Our small group leading family is big SACH fans. I needed a good break down on what it says instead of just going "oh no!" and digging my heels in against what they might say. Thank you!

squiddles · 06-12-2014, 09:15 PM

bumping for myself so I can find it later

Hermana Linda · 06-12-2014, 09:19 PM

For the record. I believe I link to it on my blog. You could always bookmark this link.

sent from my mobile device by Tapatalk

Stefanierose88 · 08-13-2014, 01:13 PM

I was given SACH when my oldest was only about 8 months old (when he started spanking is own child, baby!). I was not well mentally at the time. I was severely depressed and my husband was very sick in the hospital for a long time. I was alone and had reached my limit but didn't have the clarity of mind to realize I needed help, badly!

Anyway, against this backdrop, I have this book telling me that the ONLY loving way to discipline (at every SINGLE act of disobedience) is by spanking. In fact SACH says that "you do not take Gods Word seriously" if you don't, and that "even if you don't understand why" or "if you are upset still do it".

That caused me to ignore my gut that said "don't do this". I have done many regretful things in my life, many shameful things, but nothing hurts me more than the fact that I spanked my innocent baby girl.

I could weep now just thinking of it. It kills me inside. I was SO close to her as a baby. She was my first, my only, just the two of us when my DH was gone. She never left my side, she was extremely attached to me. As her mom, I broke her trust. I will never forget that pain. I will never forget her brokenness when she realized her mommy, her beloved mommy who she trusted, had hit her.

Nothing comes close to the pain I feel for that. Nothing.

SACH is dressed up in biblical language but its lies, hurtful hurtful lies.

Please know how dangerous it is. In particular, for women who may be overwhelmed, depressed, etc. like I was. Its bad news. It can easily lead to abuse, once you think hitting your child is God ordered and needed. I thought I HAD to do it.

I am changed and I will NEVER ever ever ever do that again.

Hermana Linda · 08-13-2014, 02:01 PM

Thank you for your testimony.

09-18-2009, 10:38 AM	#31
Julianne Guest Posts: n/a	Re: SACH review Rereading this and bumping as I believe I saw someone asking about it.

05-03-2012, 09:53 PM	#32
amyhntr2 Rose Bouquet Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Midlands in South Carolina Posts: 774	Re: SACH review I know this is an older post but I just wanted to say thank you for taking the time to write it! I found it extremely helpful! __________________ Wife to the life of the party Brad Mommy to I 6/09 and E 10/11 born at home Enjoying living in SC and seeing where my journey leads next

05-08-2012, 12:23 PM	#33
Rugayatu Climbing Rose Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Northeast Posts: 1,163	Re: SACH review Wow, this has been such a helpful post to me! I read SACH last year while visiting my parents and found myself agreeing and appreciating so much of the first parts of the book. Then got to the "rod" chapters and just felt like it was a complete disconnect from what he had been saying in previous chapters! Seeing it summed up like this is so helpful in thinking back over what I read. __________________ Erin INFJ wife to hard-working cowboy DH ~ 6/5/2005 mama to sweet and spunky DD ~ 9/2/09 squishy and serene DS ~ 1/12/14 and my angel baby ~ 1/8/2008 "The work we do is only our love for Jesus in action." ~Mother Theresa

05-08-2012, 06:39 PM	#34
Hermana Linda Administrator "air-mannah Leen-dah" it means Sister Linda in Spanish Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 51,907	Re: SACH review Thank you for bumping it. I have taken this opportunity to sticky it. __________________ My pages: Why Not Train A Child? and the FB Page as well as @WhyNotTrain on Twitter Read about how my husband was Pulled From The River By God

07-26-2012, 02:03 PM	#35
Annalou Rose Bush Crunchy mama Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Western ND Posts: 304	Re: SACH review But what does God say? In 1 John, we read, " God is love. Whoever lives in love lives in God, and God in him. 17In this way, love is made complete among us so that we will have confidence on the day of judgment, because in this world we are like him. 18There is no fear in love. But perfect love drives out fear, because fear has to do with punishment. The one who fears is not made perfect in love." "You, therefore, have no excuse, you who pass judgment on someone else, for at whatever point you judge the other, you are condemning yourself, because you who pass judgment do the same things. Now we know that God's judgment against those who do such things is based on truth. So when you, a mere man, pass judgment on them and yet do the same things, do you think you will escape God's judgment? Or do you show contempt for the riches of his kindness, tolerance and patience, not realizing that God's kindness leads you toward repentance?"[/QUOTE] romans 2:1-4^ thank you for these verses!! I've never thought about it that way!! __________________ all around crunchy, T1 diabetic and oil field mama Enfp/Entj/Entp ~Anna~ to HB-DD Nakyla 8/12/08 HB-stillborn 38w DS Anias 4/15/11 following a grain-free, sugar-free Paleo/Primal/GAPS type diet

05-13-2013, 10:06 AM	#36
MummyMenace Rosebud Join Date: May 2013 Location: Bucks, UK Posts: 71	Re: SACH review Thank you for sticking this up - I need to read this when I don't have help on my laptop! Before coming on here (and talking to SalH) I hadn't heard of the Pearls and Ezzos, but had heard of Ted Tripp. So, I think I'll focus my reading on him as he's more popular in the UK. I will be back... __________________ Me (34), DH (33), DD (1) "But you, man of God, flee from all this, and pursue righteousness, godliness, faith, love, endurance and gentleness." 1 Timothy 6:11

05-14-2013, 02:35 AM	#37
SalH Rose Trellis Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Adelaide, South Australia Posts: 1,590	Re: SACH review DId you see the review I linked to on fb a while ago? I've written my own twopennorth on SACH as well which I get out on special occasions if a debate with a friend calls for it. I have it redlined and turned backwards on my shelf for future reference. Of the debating, not parenting, kind. __________________ Sal (41) wife to Matthew (41) Home educating mummy to: DS1 (13), DS2 (11) DS3 (9), DD1 (7), DD2 (5) and DD3 (3).

05-14-2013, 07:37 PM	#39
SalH Rose Trellis Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Adelaide, South Australia Posts: 1,590	Re: SACH review Not sure, I think it was Dulce de Leche's on fb... I will check. __________________ Sal (41) wife to Matthew (41) Home educating mummy to: DS1 (13), DS2 (11) DS3 (9), DD1 (7), DD2 (5) and DD3 (3).

09-11-2013, 09:37 PM	#41
dax248 Guest Posts: n/a	I am glad I found this. Our small group leading family is big SACH fans. I needed a good break down on what it says instead of just going "oh no!" and digging my heels in against what they might say. Thank you!

06-12-2014, 09:15 PM	#42
squiddles Climbing Rose Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Beautiful PNW Posts: 1,410	Re: SACH review bumping for myself so I can find it later __________________ homeschooling Mama, INFJ married to my BFF since 2006 A 2007, M 2009, K 2011 & E 2014

06-12-2014, 09:19 PM	#43
Hermana Linda Administrator "air-mannah Leen-dah" it means Sister Linda in Spanish Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 51,907	Re: SACH review For the record. I believe I link to it on my blog. You could always bookmark this link. sent from my mobile device by Tapatalk __________________ My pages: Why Not Train A Child? and the FB Page as well as @WhyNotTrain on Twitter Read about how my husband was Pulled From The River By God

08-13-2014, 01:13 PM	#44
Stefanierose88 Rose Blossom Faith, Torah, Family Join Date: May 2014 Location: NJ, USA Posts: 171	Re: SACH review I was given SACH when my oldest was only about 8 months old (when he started spanking is own child, baby!). I was not well mentally at the time. I was severely depressed and my husband was very sick in the hospital for a long time. I was alone and had reached my limit but didn't have the clarity of mind to realize I needed help, badly! Anyway, against this backdrop, I have this book telling me that the ONLY loving way to discipline (at every SINGLE act of disobedience) is by spanking. In fact SACH says that "you do not take Gods Word seriously" if you don't, and that "even if you don't understand why" or "if you are upset still do it". That caused me to ignore my gut that said "don't do this". I have done many regretful things in my life, many shameful things, but nothing hurts me more than the fact that I spanked my innocent baby girl. I could weep now just thinking of it. It kills me inside. I was SO close to her as a baby. She was my first, my only, just the two of us when my DH was gone. She never left my side, she was extremely attached to me. As her mom, I broke her trust. I will never forget that pain. I will never forget her brokenness when she realized her mommy, her beloved mommy who she trusted, had hit her. Nothing comes close to the pain I feel for that. Nothing. SACH is dressed up in biblical language but its lies, hurtful hurtful lies. Please know how dangerous it is. In particular, for women who may be overwhelmed, depressed, etc. like I was. Its bad news. It can easily lead to abuse, once you think hitting your child is God ordered and needed. I thought I HAD to do it. I am changed and I will NEVER ever ever ever do that again. __________________ Me: 27, DH: 44 Noemi- 5yr Liora- 3yr Zipporah- 20 months BABY BOY- due oct2016

08-13-2014, 02:01 PM	#45
Hermana Linda Administrator "air-mannah Leen-dah" it means Sister Linda in Spanish Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 51,907	Re: SACH review Thank you for your testimony. __________________ My pages: Why Not Train A Child? and the FB Page as well as @WhyNotTrain on Twitter Read about how my husband was Pulled From The River By God

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