Gangbangers and Gluesticks - Page 7

Hermana Linda · 03-18-2011, 02:38 PM

Is there really that much difference between using gluesticks and/or plastic plumbing line and using dowels and/or leather strips?

Is it just that the plastic doesn't leave marks?

ShiriChayim · 03-18-2011, 02:44 PM

Ok, this is off the top of my memory going back to what I've read before, but my understanding is that the use of the glue sticks and plumbing line are recommended specifically because they don't leave marks, BUT the reason they don't leave marks is because the damage they do is not superficial but more deep tissue damage. It is more painful and ultimately more dangerous when the whipping is prolonged, but without the same evidence.

Hermana Linda · 03-18-2011, 03:04 PM

So, it is the plastic which causes that effect?

My point in asking the question though was that people seem more shocked by the use of plastic tubing and glue sticks than the use of other instruments. I have noticed this all around the internet.

ShiriChayim · 03-18-2011, 04:39 PM

Well...my understanding is rudimentary but I think it has to do with how pliable they are, they are not rigid like a belt or stick that gives a "crash" affect, but because there is give on both sides, for some reason the damage done is deeper, but also more painful.

I do think that many of the people who are doing this likely don't understand that the lack of bruise doesn't mean it's a more gentle injury than a beating that would leave one.

Hermana Linda · 03-18-2011, 08:39 PM

That makes sense.

Zooey · 03-18-2011, 10:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShiriChayim

Well...my understanding is rudimentary but I think it has to do with how pliable they are, they are not rigid like a belt or stick that gives a "crash" affect, but because there is give on both sides, for some reason the damage done is deeper, but also more painful.

I do think that many of the people who are doing this likely don't understand that the lack of bruise doesn't mean it's a more gentle injury than a beating that would leave one.

I think that's right. I mean, I have heard that, in the old days (hopefully never again!), that

rubber hose used to be used in the same way, for the same reason.
My stepfather had a

teacher when he was in school who used a rubber hose.

Waterlogged · 03-18-2011, 10:32 PM

I knew someone who was using a glue stick. She kept one in every room. I managed to convince the group not to read SACH but read Families where Grace is in Place instead.

The glue stick thing still makes me

.

01-13-2012, 11:44 PM

I too am "WOW"!!! And realizing how sheltered I am in my own little happy world with my family...people actually do that? How does one spank with a glue stick n e way? Actually, I don't want the visual of that

. I will be praying for those peeps that do that!!!

---------- Post added at 12:44 AM ---------- Previous post was at 12:41 AM ----------

Also, that's so awesome that you went over to those guys and asked them!!! I am trying to come out of my shell, and change antisocial habbits so I totally admire you for it

01-14-2012, 08:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zzubadoo

I too am "WOW"!!! And realizing how sheltered I am in my own little happy world with my family...people actually do that? How does one spank with a glue stick n e way? Actually, I don't want the visual of that

. I will be praying for those peeps that do that!!!

---------- Post added at 12:44 AM ---------- Previous post was at 12:41 AM ----------

Also, that's so awesome that you went over to those guys and asked them!!! I am trying to come out of my shell, and change antisocial habbits so I totally admire you for it

Welcome zzubadoo

No, you don't want the visual on that. The people I know who use them keep hitting until the child submits and is "broken"

And, they laugh about it.

Hermana Linda · 01-14-2012, 12:22 PM

The glue stick in question is for a hot glue gun, not the little one for paper. It's similar to the plastic plumbing supply line.

Beautiful Chaos · 01-14-2012, 05:16 PM

I have never heard of such a thing......WOW, that is so sad

ruhama · 01-20-2012, 02:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShiriChayim

Well...my understanding is rudimentary but I think it has to do with how pliable they are, they are not rigid like a belt or stick that gives a "crash" affect, but because there is give on both sides, for some reason the damage done is deeper, but also more painful.

I do think that many of the people who are doing this likely don't understand that the lack of bruise doesn't mean it's a more gentle injury than a beating that would leave one.

I'm just so physically sickened by people who do this.

Also, glue sticks are denser than most wooden dowels or wooden spoons - thus imparting MORE force IN ADDITION TO the "whip" effect their flexibility imparts.

6boysmom · 02-08-2012, 03:09 PM

The first time I ever heard of this was a couple of years ago by my son's counselor/social worker! She was telling me that she knew that a lot of people used belts to spank their kids and she had to keep reporting them to CPS for leaving marks. She told me that she recommends that people should use glue sticks instead!

I told her that I don't need that kind of advice and that I don't spank my kids at all. I asked her why she didn't just recommend that parents not spank and she said that it's so ingrained in people that they wouldn't listen to her.

Anyway, I am a very curious person- I decided to try this, (on myself- of course!! lol) but I didn't realize that glue sticks could be 10 inches long. I just grabbed a 4 inch one and flicked my leg a few times with it. Umm- that was dumb! I am very fair skinned too. But I had to explain my red marks to my dh- LOL. But I didn't do it hard and had red marks on my leg for at least 3 days- so I am not sure about this theory, but it sure made me sick that people would actually do this to children!

OperaDivaMom · 03-05-2012, 02:11 PM

My parents used one of those on my younger siblings, I had grown up past spanking age when they got it. Actually, I think they spanked me with it once, I remember it being incredibly painful. It shocks me now, thinking about it as a parent. I know my parents love me, but that definitely crossed a line.

LearningMama · 03-05-2012, 03:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OperaDivaMom

My parents used one of those on my younger siblings, I had grown up past spanking age when they got it. Actually, I think they spanked me with it once, I remember it being incredibly painful. It shocks me now, thinking about it as a parent. I know my parents love me, but that definitely crossed a line.

I understand the shock that you feel when you look back at your childhood and realize some things your parent/s did was not ok.

03-18-2011, 02:38 PM	#91
Hermana Linda Administrator "air-mannah Leen-dah" it means Sister Linda in Spanish Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 51,918	Re: Gangbangers and Gluesticks Is there really that much difference between using gluesticks and/or plastic plumbing line and using dowels and/or leather strips? Is it just that the plastic doesn't leave marks? __________________ My pages: Why Not Train A Child? and the FB Page as well as @WhyNotTrain on Twitter Read about how my husband was Pulled From The River By God

03-18-2011, 02:44 PM	#92
ShiriChayim Rose Garden Rock on!!! Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 18,102	Re: Gangbangers and Gluesticks Ok, this is off the top of my memory going back to what I've read before, but my understanding is that the use of the glue sticks and plumbing line are recommended specifically because they don't leave marks, BUT the reason they don't leave marks is because the damage they do is not superficial but more deep tissue damage. It is more painful and ultimately more dangerous when the whipping is prolonged, but without the same evidence. __________________ ~Heather~ ENFP married to my ENJF hubby gently mothering: ds15yo- the performer, ds14yo- the gamer, ds 12yo- the adventurer, and dd 10yo-the dynamo Missing my little Malachi David and Hannah Danielle, in Jesus' arms Check out my blog "Today you are You, that is truer than true. There is no one alive who is Youer than You." Dr Seuss

03-18-2011, 03:04 PM	#93
Hermana Linda Administrator "air-mannah Leen-dah" it means Sister Linda in Spanish Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 51,918	Re: Gangbangers and Gluesticks So, it is the plastic which causes that effect? My point in asking the question though was that people seem more shocked by the use of plastic tubing and glue sticks than the use of other instruments. I have noticed this all around the internet. __________________ My pages: Why Not Train A Child? and the FB Page as well as @WhyNotTrain on Twitter Read about how my husband was Pulled From The River By God

03-18-2011, 04:39 PM	#94
ShiriChayim Rose Garden Rock on!!! Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 18,102	Re: Gangbangers and Gluesticks Well...my understanding is rudimentary but I think it has to do with how pliable they are, they are not rigid like a belt or stick that gives a "crash" affect, but because there is give on both sides, for some reason the damage done is deeper, but also more painful. I do think that many of the people who are doing this likely don't understand that the lack of bruise doesn't mean it's a more gentle injury than a beating that would leave one. __________________ ~Heather~ ENFP married to my ENJF hubby gently mothering: ds15yo- the performer, ds14yo- the gamer, ds 12yo- the adventurer, and dd 10yo-the dynamo Missing my little Malachi David and Hannah Danielle, in Jesus' arms Check out my blog "Today you are You, that is truer than true. There is no one alive who is Youer than You." Dr Seuss

03-18-2011, 08:39 PM	#95
Hermana Linda Administrator "air-mannah Leen-dah" it means Sister Linda in Spanish Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 51,918	Re: Gangbangers and Gluesticks That makes sense. __________________ My pages: Why Not Train A Child? and the FB Page as well as @WhyNotTrain on Twitter Read about how my husband was Pulled From The River By God

03-18-2011, 10:32 PM	#97
Waterlogged Rose Garden grace is for mamas too Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Seattle Posts: 20,033	Re: Gangbangers and Gluesticks I knew someone who was using a glue stick. She kept one in every room. I managed to convince the group not to read SACH but read Families where Grace is in Place instead. The glue stick thing still makes me . __________________ mama to K almost 8 and "Little Fluff" B age 3

01-13-2012, 11:44 PM	#98
zzubadoo Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Gangbangers and Gluesticks I too am "WOW"!!! And realizing how sheltered I am in my own little happy world with my family...people actually do that? How does one spank with a glue stick n e way? Actually, I don't want the visual of that . I will be praying for those peeps that do that!!! ---------- Post added at 12:44 AM ---------- Previous post was at 12:41 AM ---------- Also, that's so awesome that you went over to those guys and asked them!!! I am trying to come out of my shell, and change antisocial habbits so I totally admire you for it

01-14-2012, 12:22 PM	#100
Hermana Linda Administrator "air-mannah Leen-dah" it means Sister Linda in Spanish Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 51,918	Re: Gangbangers and Gluesticks The glue stick in question is for a hot glue gun, not the little one for paper. It's similar to the plastic plumbing supply line. __________________ My pages: Why Not Train A Child? and the FB Page as well as @WhyNotTrain on Twitter Read about how my husband was Pulled From The River By God

01-14-2012, 05:16 PM	#101
Beautiful Chaos Rose Trellis I live a wonderfully chaotic life! Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Upstate, NY Posts: 1,502	Re: Gangbangers and Gluesticks I have never heard of such a thing......WOW, that is so sad __________________ Megan Starting a new chapter! Sofia (01) Madeline(04) Quin(08) <>< <>< <>< Imaginations Creations You will win sweet mamma!!! facebook me Trimming the fat 4 life formerly known as mammaof3

02-08-2012, 03:09 PM	#103
6boysmom Rosebud Zookeeper mama Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Michigan Posts: 51	Re: Gangbangers and Gluesticks The first time I ever heard of this was a couple of years ago by my son's counselor/social worker! She was telling me that she knew that a lot of people used belts to spank their kids and she had to keep reporting them to CPS for leaving marks. She told me that she recommends that people should use glue sticks instead! I told her that I don't need that kind of advice and that I don't spank my kids at all. I asked her why she didn't just recommend that parents not spank and she said that it's so ingrained in people that they wouldn't listen to her. Anyway, I am a very curious person- I decided to try this, (on myself- of course!! lol) but I didn't realize that glue sticks could be 10 inches long. I just grabbed a 4 inch one and flicked my leg a few times with it. Umm- that was dumb! I am very fair skinned too. But I had to explain my red marks to my dh- LOL. But I didn't do it hard and had red marks on my leg for at least 3 days- so I am not sure about this theory, but it sure made me sick that people would actually do this to children! __________________ Tammy wife of 16 years to my Pooky mom to 6 awesome boys: Barney the Dinosaur- 17yrs Cookie Monster- 16yrs Detroit Tiger- 16yrs Panda Bear- 13yrs Dr. Doolittle- 11yrs Sparky- 10yrs Micah 6:8

03-05-2012, 02:11 PM	#104
OperaDivaMom Deactivated If my life was a movie, no one would believe it was based on reality. Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: A southbound train Posts: 2,849	Re: Gangbangers and Gluesticks My parents used one of those on my younger siblings, I had grown up past spanking age when they got it. Actually, I think they spanked me with it once, I remember it being incredibly painful. It shocks me now, thinking about it as a parent. I know my parents love me, but that definitely crossed a line.

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