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[happy2bmama]

I just ran across thie article (You'll have to cut and paste and remove the space between norwich and bulleting)


http://www.norwich bulletin.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060129/LIFESTYLE/601290301/1024

Apparently, there is a "new player" in town promoting the same schedule and cry it out as Ezzo - they are at:

www.raymond parenting.com (remove the space between raymond and parenting).....

I just hate all of this faddish advice being given - it's really sad to me.....

[cklewis]

So. . . . "careful crying" is what they are calling it now. "Controlled crying" was the last term I had heard. :/

It bugs me that the Raymond's are co-opting some positive discipline terms. :/

C

Originally Posted by happy2bmama

Apparently, there is a "new player" in town promoting the same schedule and cry it out as Ezzo - they are at:
www.raymond parenting.com (remove the space between raymond and parenting).....
I just hate all of this faddish advice being given - it's really sad to me.....

this is so frustrating! Look at this quote from http://www.raymondparenting.com/seminars.html
"Learning what is normal for a child (and an adult), what to expect, what to worry about and what not to worry about - all are available through Kitty's enlightened courses."
The picture DIRECTLY above this quote "Learning what is NORMAL" (emphasis mine) is a picture of a baby being fed a BOTTLE!!! how is that "normal"???

just venting. and yes I know that there are some moms who end up bottle feeding not by choice... but still... breastfeeding is what is natural/normal. Things like this drive me crazy!

[Radosny Matka]

"The only reliable way for babies to design their own self-calming strategies (thumb, fingers, blanket, rocking, settling into the corner of the crib, etc.) is through being allowed to do some careful crying..."

This is a quote from their home page.

Funny, all 4 of my kids learned self-calming strategies without doing "careful crying," but yet apparently "careful crying" is the ONLY reliable way for babies to learn to self soothe.

Of course I don't expect a 3 month old to do much self-soothing--that's why mommies were made softer than daddies, right?

They don't seem to be all bad though. Here are some other things from the website:
"We encourage parents to...

• hold age-appropriate expectations of their child’s behaviour.
• leave toilet training alone until after age three.
• feed their child good food but only when the child is hungry.
  

Of course then there are those bottle feeding pictures. Its not just the one above the quote about "normal behavior," there is also one on the page about good nutrition for children, above a quote about the importance of feeding kids healthy food! I sent them an e-mail about the pictures, we'll see if I get a reply back.

Jenn

careful crying

Another nonsensical term! What on earth is "careful" about crying? It's just a way of sticking the word "care" on to imply empathy, and at the same time make it seem like leaving your child to cry is a sensitively deliberated action (akin to being 'careful' not to break something valuable). There just aren't any subtlties to leaving a child to cry; either they are distressed and being attended to appropriately, or they are not. Simple. Careful crying just sounds like a fluffy way to say 'manipulating a child's most deeply felt emotions in order to convience our own selfish lifestyles'.

babies to design their own self-calming strategies

"Design?" What do they do, get a drafting board out? Conference with their creative team? Puleeeease!

[katiekind]

Shoshoi, your joke about the drafting table made me smile and it also made me think...and when I think, it sometimes leads me to get on my



I don't know if the site is promoting itself as a Christian approach or not. All I can say is the idea of leaving people alone so they can design their own self-calming strategies lacks a major hallmark of following Christ, and that is getting involved with people who are suffering. I hope and pray that more and more Christian parents will see Christian parenting of babies as a ministry, and be encouraged that it's ok to calm your own babies, and be glad you can extend God's love and care to them in that way. Your own flesh and blood should not have to design a strategy to self-calm because no one will come, any more than the man beaten and left for dead in the parable of the good Samaritan should be left a little longer to see if he can design his own strategy for self-woundtending.

[Beyond Blessed]

Kathy - - can I quote you on my blog?

[cklewis]

Originally Posted by katiekind

All I can say is the idea of leaving people alone so they can design their own self-calming strategies lacks a major hallmark of following Christ, and that is getting involved with people who are suffering.

Oh my word! That is SO true! I never thought of it like that. Thank you for stating it so poignantly.

C

[katiekind]

Yes, you can quote me...

[mommy2abigail]

Go Kathy! I'm gonna write that out and stick it on my fridge! Maybe I'll make little slips of paper and hand them out at church...

Your own flesh and blood should not have to design a strategy to self-calm because no one will come, any more than the man beaten and left for dead in the parable of the good Samaritan should be left a little longer to see if he can design his own strategy for self-woundtending.

Thankyou for saying that - it makes a lot of sense.

[TulipMama]

Did you see the follow up?

http://www.norwichbulletin.com/apps/...602120301/1024

After my last column about napping, readers expressed their concerns about the book "Baby Wise" by Gary Ezzo and Robert Bucknam. These readers introduced me to the controversial issues surrounding this resource and a helpful Web site, www.ezzo.info, which has a great deal of information regarding the authors' techniques and lack of expertise.

. . .

Several readers shared their concerns about alerting new mothers to this information and cautioned me to do extensive research on any method that I'm considering trying in the future.

For me, this advice clearly demonstrates the kind of caring attitudes that experienced moms share with new moms such as myself.

. . .

Although it may have highlighted my naivete in being a new mom -- and new columnist --to advocate a resource without fully researching it, it was well worth getting advice from readers and finding even more resources.

[Cheyenne]

[BornFreeBaby]

Originally Posted by mommy2abigail

Go Kathy! I'm gonna write that out and stick it on my fridge! Maybe I'll make little slips of paper and hand them out at church...

OT:
He he. I would love to do that at my church- but it would have to be 'approved' by the pastor/staff. Ofcourse that's not what they teach at my church (GKGW TTAC is more their style). That reminds me that I still need to look for a new church...