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08-15-2005, 12:24 PM | #76 |
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Re: Created To Be His Help Meet by Debi Pearl *graphic content*
I started reading the book out of curiosity and there are several things right away that bother me. Debi Pearl states in chapter one that a man attains Gods favor by getting a good wife, that this is how God created us and it is our purpose for existing, that is it Gods will that a woman be a suitable helper to their husbands, that when you obey your husband you obey God and that men are created to be a helper of God. She seems to be putting the husband as the mediator between the wife and God instead of Christ being that mediator. Some how the idea of existing for the purpose of man while the husband exists to be a helper to God comes across like women were an after thought, and of less value than man, which is not supported by scripture. We are all of equal value in Gods sight, Christ died for us all equally. I just have a real problem with her theology.
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08-15-2005, 02:41 PM | #78 | |
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08-15-2005, 03:43 PM | #79 |
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Toxic waste is a perfect way to describe the Pearl's books. I don't think they are worth whatever few nuggets are in them. Way more bone than meat with the Pearls. |
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So now we get back to my earlier point...where do the Pearls give an example where a husband is abusing the WIFE, and she is allowed to do ANYTHING to stop it? Seriously... And why in the world is the criteria wordly laws? That's kind of subjective...I mean really, in some states it is illegal to strike your child with an object--which would make following Pearl's advice on child training illegal. Jenn |
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08-16-2005, 11:25 AM | #81 | |
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08-16-2005, 12:51 PM | #82 | |
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Clearly these women aren't familiar with what happens when you live in countries without laws protecting women, or laws that are on the books but not enforced, or even laws that promote the exploitation of women (countries with child prostitution come to mind...). What if you are a child whose father commands you to let them sexually abuse you and you live where there is no legal protection? What if you are a wife in the same situation? When i raised the issue of what about these other countries, i was told that 'we don't live in those countries, we should be thankful to live in one where there are laws protecting women and children, so it's a moot point to argue about since it's not our situation'. But it seems like such a bizarre way to decide what is right or not in terms of 'complete obedience to your earthly authority--first your father, then your husband' based on arbitrary government law. Very very scary stuff. |
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08-16-2005, 01:16 PM | #83 | |
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08-16-2005, 03:04 PM | #84 | |
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08-16-2005, 05:04 PM | #85 | |
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Soooo. . . Ukraine has now made spanking illegal. The Pearls' TTUAC is translated into Russian and at least one church is handing it out in Kyiv. So, their teachings are going against the law of the land, designed to protect children. (Using the reasoning presented here. . .) Should the Pearls actively seek to have their teachings removed from Ukraine, so as not to lead people to disobey the law of the land? And since when were the Pearls such cheerleaders of the "law of the land"? They advocate having people married without marriage certificates. Their daughter was religiously married, but not legally married. (Ahhh. . . Or is this just one other way to remove any legal protection from women? I really wonder. . .) (edited to turn "not" into "now". . .) |
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08-16-2005, 05:49 PM | #87 | |
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And did you mean that the Ukraine has made spanking illegal???
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