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08-06-2005, 03:51 PM | #31 | |||
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1 Corinthians 4:21 "What will ye? shall I come unto you with a rod, or in love, and [in] the spirit of meekness? "
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08-06-2005, 05:35 PM | #32 | |
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08-07-2005, 10:23 AM | #33 | |
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FWIW, I just wanted to post where I received the information regarding Mr. Pearl. It is from Created To Be His Help Meet by Debi Pearl (No Greater Joy Ministries), and here is the reference:
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08-07-2005, 10:26 AM | #34 | ||
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08-07-2005, 10:28 AM | #35 |
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I think someone should let Mr. Pearl know that the authors of the Bible are all Jewish (except for one who may have been a Gentile God-fearer but may actually have been Jewish after all) and that even when writing in Greek they were expressing a Hebraic mindset!
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08-07-2005, 10:59 AM | #36 | |
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And why THREE Greek Bibles? Is there a difference in translations? Thanks for answering my questions. |
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08-07-2005, 05:44 PM | #37 |
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Well the Pentateuch was the Greek version of the Hebrew Scriptures and that is, if I am getting the order correctly, what the Latin Vulgate was translated from and that is what the KJV is from. So if he's KJV only he would probably consider the Pentateuch the most reliable because that's what the KJV comes from--but that is still a translation
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08-07-2005, 07:29 PM | #38 |
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Huh. Interesting -- thanks, Crystal!
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08-07-2005, 07:46 PM | #39 | |
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Unfortunately this is what disturbs me most...that just because someone doesn't agree with women being ordained or preaching (sorry Crystal....but I have to be honest here ) and I don't, that you would dismiss what I think????? Weird
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08-08-2005, 05:18 PM | #40 | |
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okay, so here's some more from the same blog in the OP. i am so horrified to be told that i HATE my children because i do not literally hit them with a rod. i am so sad that people believe this junk!
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08-08-2005, 05:24 PM | #41 |
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Reading commentaries is not the same as exegetical study of the Scriptures I wouldn't even bother responding to that.
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08-08-2005, 05:41 PM | #42 |
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i'm not planning on responding to her at all again. she called us all "scripture twisters" and "liberal" and indicated that she believes that i am merely "professing" christianity as i don't spank. there's no way i'm responding to someone who cannot dialogue without namecalling.
i guess i'm wondering what your comments are on the commentary. it sounds like something my IL would say. :/ |
08-08-2005, 05:49 PM | #43 |
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Well, I don't disagree with it if you read the "rod" as "authority" and "the Word of God". Insert these meanings and his commentary is fine
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08-08-2005, 08:24 PM | #44 | ||
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I don't like the notion that we are supposed to instill fear in our children--at least not fear of US or fear of offending men. I realize he's from a different time and uses the English language in a slightly different way, but I think she's interpreting it quite literally.. they should be AFRAID. And if your inlaws or someone IRL brings it up, you can always respond with what Crystal said: Quote:
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08-09-2005, 04:33 PM | #45 | |
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He really couldn't get much more judgemental than that. Hmm, or could we say that his comment is true AND that physical punishment is never warranted, therefore we are really never "refusing to use physical punishment when it is warranted" because it is never warranted???
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