Oh Mamas!! I am so sad and sick to my stomach!!!

[katiekind]

Spyder and Crystal,

You are both right. Ezzo talks out of both sides of his mouth, giving lip service to normality at various points, while the underlying, more rigorous message is also there to be found if you want it, that control can't start too early, that this scheduling business is a form of discipline that will reap a harvest of righteousness, etc. Prep and Babywise cover the same territory although Prep, with it's biblical overtones, presses the case harder. Parents in a church group that becomes an Ezzo sub-culture may read and reinforce the "control" messages, where parents who are reading Babywise in a more normal "interpretive community" may find simply a recipe they feel free to adapt in the direction of normality.

Earlier editions were more blatant with the rigorousness and with associating the method with producing godly character. These parents may be using an earlier edition. Or they may be in a subculture that has intensified the message, or they may have brought their own bias to the material.

for this sweet precious baby and her comfort.

Yea know, sometimes we have to let people go in our lives if te cause us too much pain and sorrow. Life is short.

[missythemom]

I am sick to my stomach!! i mean it, literally sick to my stomach! fourteen years is along time to be friends with someone and i think that maybe as was suggested before that you give her more information on parenting and why your stance is as it is.they have been using this method for a long time now so they probably won't listen but you don't have anything to lose in offering up the information and you opinion as you will probably be ending the relationship with them anyway.i would not be able to stay friends with them at this point.I pray that God gives you the words to say that will change their hearts.God bless.

[FlyingBlueKiwi]