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03-19-2010, 05:29 PM | #1 |
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Kirk Cameron and Ted Tripp
Someone suggested that this topic would be a good spin-off topic from the Michael Pearl mess since I mentioned on that thread that Kirk Cameron recommends Ted Tripp's parenting resources on his website and claims that he uses them continually with his children. As he is very influential, it seems an important topic to discuss respectfully of course.So, I am starting the topic.
First off, I want to say, that I do not think Kirk Cameron is a "bad" person. I think he genuinely believes he is being a good Christian and is listening to the teachings of others who claim that their teachings are biblical and right. There are a bunch of links in which state his endorsement of Ted Tripp's teachings. if you like I can post broken links of them tomorrow. i am a substitute postal carrier and will be back home late tomorrow afternoon. well, the time varies as it depends on the mail count witch is variable. Goodnight and happy thoughts.☺ |
03-19-2010, 06:07 PM | #2 |
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Re: Kirk Cameron and Ted Tripp
One of the Bible teachers who is posting wonderful blogs arguing against Pearl's teachings also recommends Tripp. I can't really understand it. You can find links on my website. He's the one where I say, "a pastor who uses Tedd Tripp's teachings in his church, speaks out against Pearl's teachings."
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03-19-2010, 06:14 PM | #3 |
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Re: Kirk Cameron and Ted Tripp
Im not fam. W/trip..what is his platform?
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03-19-2010, 06:21 PM | #4 | |
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I'm sorry, I don't have the book in front of me, so I can't give page numbers or quotes. I'm going from memory here. A lot of the good things in his book echo the "tying heart strings" concept that the Pearls teach, and I think a lot of parents like that idea. Then they throw the icky stuff like that in. He teaches not only that spanking is okay, but it's necessary and required by the Bible. He pretty much teaches that a child's salvation depends on it.
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03-19-2010, 06:53 PM | #5 |
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03-19-2010, 07:07 PM | #6 |
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Re: Kirk Cameron and Ted Tripp
i'm for more info on TT. the church i attend womens bible study at is doing a parenting class by paul david tripp, which i can only assume is the DVD series with his brother ted. a lot of my IRL friends go here...so i;m but also interested to know more about what TT says, so i can be prepared for any conversations that may come up.
ETA: i did a little more digging and found SACH and BW on the recommended parental resources page on the churches website. does it seem odd that a church would recommend book on sleep training? it seems a little out of line to me. i am disppointed, expecially since after their blog had some awesome articles, like a very favorable commentary on the Christianity Today article from January. sigh. sorry for the hijack...back to the regularly scheduled thread. is there anywhere to read a summary of the SACH info? Last edited by abh5e8; 03-19-2010 at 07:31 PM. |
03-19-2010, 07:29 PM | #7 |
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03-19-2010, 08:29 PM | #8 | |
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Six Little Feet, she was referring to TTUAC the Pearl's book, not SACH. I was confused too until I reread it. |
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03-19-2010, 08:40 PM | #9 | |
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OH OK!! To may initials...... ---------- Post added at 08:40 PM ---------- Previous post was at 08:38 PM ---------- SACH was in my church's library and I got it removed. One of the reasons is that in Canada was Tripp was teaching is illegal.
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03-19-2010, 08:45 PM | #10 |
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Re: Kirk Cameron and Ted Tripp
Shepherding A Child's Heart talks about relationships, but also talks about spanking if the child doesn't show fist time obedience. The only example I recall was the child being told it's bedtime and to put away to crayons and colorbooks. The child should be spanked if they asked to continue coloring before getting up-they should immediately start cleaning up and THEN ask to continue. I found that strange; why can't they ask me if they can keep coloring if they want? I can always say no!
I do think that spanking damages the relationship between parents and child, therefore I think that it has no business in my parenting tool box. Have I used it? absolutely. Did it work? right away, yeah, but it took me a long time to rebuild what i destroyed by using that tool. I could remodel my house with a hammer, and work on one room at a time, or I could use a bulldozer, and have to rebuild every room at once. The bulldozer is easier right away, but rebuilding each room at the same time wouldn't be worth the first time ease of the bulldozer.
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03-21-2010, 09:25 PM | #11 |
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Re: Kirk Cameron and Ted Tripp
In response to the OP:
Is it weird that I kind of assume that all pastors/teachers/Christians are punitive unless they have expressly said otherwise? I'm wary of anything and everything that comes into my hand with a 'Christian' label because I've never known Christians who weren't punitive until I came here. It is all I've ever experienced. His theology doesn't surprise me, though it's certainly still sad. It makes me wonder what percentage of Christians are punitive minded (both theologically and parenting-wise) and how many have a true understanding of Grace as it applies to every area of our lives. |
03-22-2010, 05:27 AM | #12 | |
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