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Old 03-12-2010, 07:04 PM   #46
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She has two new posts since the last time I read a couple days ago. Her dad posted again too...wow. The deception that he is engulfed in is intense.
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Old 03-13-2010, 06:46 AM   #47
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She made a little video. Link is on her blog. Yeah, don't know which emotion to have.
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Old 03-13-2010, 08:02 AM   #48
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There's some good information on the hyper-Patriarchy movement (of which Gothardism and ATI fits) on Whitewashedfeminst.com as well. The Duggars seem like such nice people, but some of what they do and think makes me cringe.
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Wow. I haven't read much, but enough. Poor thing. I admire her bravery.
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Old 03-13-2010, 12:28 PM   #51
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We nearly got sucked in the Gothard movement 5 years ago. We met a family, who were friends with the Duggers, and they turned us on to ATI world. One thing led to the other. I still have the big redbooks and still do the character sketches with my kids.. I also have 5 kids, 3 were during our quiverful mentality. I cherish each one of them though.

If the Lord had not touched my DH the way that he did 3 years ago, we would have had 8 by now! I just know it! I love children, but was dying slowly inside.

I have been asked to contribute my families story on the no longer quivering website. It is a very touchy subject for me, and I am not sure that if I ran into the group I once called "my sisters" that I would not get sucked back in. I hate lables, but it felt like I was part of a cult.

Vicki Garrison is a great women though, and is on facebook. She will let anyone friend her. I have my story all ready. I have kept quiet for several years, but have been talking to many ladies who are no longer quivering and feel that I can help someone.
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Old 03-13-2010, 11:50 PM   #52
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An incredible young woman! And a talented writer. I would love to be her friend...
Really sheds light on that movement. I happen to like the Duggars- but I've always wondered about the reality of such a lifestyle once the camera crews have gone home.
Thanks to the op for this link. I read the entire blog and will be following it.
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Her post from yesterday (Sat Mar 13) is a perfect example of where "First Time Obedience" tends to go wrong. Even in a household where a family thinks that they are doing it for necessary things, and not arbitrary things- her story about the family friend is exactly why teaching children to obey the first time, every time, right away, is a terrible idea. Good post!
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I grew up in an ATI home and was homeschooled with Gothard's curriculum. It is scary stuff. My mother had health issues which kept our family small, which looking back, was a real blessing. Her blog brought back a lot of issues. Time to call the counselor, again.
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I really like her blog too. I want to give her a great big hug.
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That last post was so very sad.
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Sickening and heartbreaking. Sad, sad, sad.
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i've spent the last several days reading her blog...what a heartbreaking story. i'm so glad that she managed to leave.
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What area of the country/denomination is Gothard popular with? Does he have a big following in certain states? I can't put my finger on it but I'm suspecting my childhood pastor modled a lot of his teachings from the pulpit.



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