Crossing state lines with a minor

KarenBoo · 06-25-2019, 05:02 AM

This weekend our Scout troop is driving to our summer camp location in another state. I'm assigned to drive my daughter plus one other girl. It's about a 8 hour drive.

The troop is being casual about driving arrangements. One leader will have all of the forms & such, but if I get pulled over, what do I need to have in my car that gives me permission to have this other girl in the car?

twoplustwo · 06-25-2019, 05:11 AM

Interesting. I don't know of anything that I am aware of. I have driven both boy and girl scouts across state lines and didn't have anything in my car (the leader had all paperwork with her/him in that car).

If there is something I am interested to know the procedure.

Little Forest · 06-25-2019, 06:47 AM

Honestly, that would not be a worry on my mind at all.

mamacat · 06-25-2019, 06:55 AM

As long as the leader has the parental consent and emergency contact forms I think legally you are fine but might be a good idea to have a copy of that info yourself since you are in different vehicles and not together as a group in a van

hollybells · 06-25-2019, 05:51 PM

Things must be a lot different in the States. It wouldn't cross my mind to be concerned if we went into Quebec with extra kids or if our kids were with others. The only thing I'd want to make sure they had was their provincial health card. Otherwise …

If we were crossing into the U.S. that would be a completely different thing. It came up with rep hockey and passports (obviously for all) and notarized letters are required for kids / teens travelling without their own parents.

Are there issues crossing into different states?

knitlove · 06-25-2019, 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by hollybells

Things must be a lot different in the States. It wouldn't cross my mind to be concerned if we went into Quebec with extra kids or if our kids were with others. The only thing I'd want to make sure they had was their provincial health card. Otherwise …

If we were crossing into the U.S. that would be a completely different thing. It came up with rep hockey and passports (obviously for all) and notarized letters are required for kids / teens travelling without their own parents.

Are there issues crossing into different states?

This was my thought. It isn't an international border there aren't stops and it won't be a big deal.

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Virginia · 06-25-2019, 07:40 PM

I would absolutely make sure I had a note written and signed by the parent. I agree with PP about sex trafficking being a concern, and I also would just rather be safe than sorry in general and cover my own butt

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MaySunflowers · 06-26-2019, 12:32 AM

Well, here if a parent wants to fly alone with their own child it is best to bring a letter from the other parent stating knowledge and permission. Maybe something similar to ease your mind?

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Virginia · 06-26-2019, 03:04 PM

Here is a sample letter:
https://philalegal.org/html/Sample_l..._to_travel.pdf

You write the names and dates of travel, as well as the addresses of final destinations.

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mamacat · 06-26-2019, 03:13 PM

The only time I have heard of any travel restriction was if the child was in a county/state foster care system which I assume isnt the case here or you would have said.

tazmom · 06-26-2019, 10:16 PM

I take kids without their parents on field trips all the time for my job. None of the kids look like they could be my biological children. If I have more than one vehicle transporting kids, I make sure the driver has the permission slips for the children riding in their vehicle. I know the liability issues are different with a company sponsored trip vs privately transporting children. If you're really worried, I would ask for a copy of the permission slips from the leader.

KarenBoo · 06-27-2019, 04:17 AM

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Originally Posted by tazmom

I take kids without their parents on field trips all the time for my job. None of the kids look like they could be my biological children. If I have more than one vehicle transporting kids, I make sure the driver has the permission slips for the children riding in their vehicle. I know the liability issues are different with a company sponsored trip vs privately transporting children. If you're really worried, I would ask for a copy of the permission slips from the leader.

You know what's weird - we don't have permission slips for this trip! We have the health forms, and that's it! The troop leader registered all of us for the camping trip, and we have yet to fill out forms for this camping trip, other than the health forms. And the health forms are not specific to this trip. They are filled out once and kept on file with the troop for as long as we are in the troop!

I am going to make my own permission slip to be signed by the parents of the girls I am taking, and also have a copy of the health forms and insurance cards in case of an emergency.

hollybells · 06-27-2019, 05:28 AM

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Originally Posted by KarenBoo

I am going to make my own permission slip to be signed by the parents of the girls I am taking, and also have a copy of the health forms and insurance cards in case of an emergency.

I'd double check that's it's ok to have extra copies of that information made and carried around. If I'd provided the info and expected it to be kept secure and private, I would be livid to know a parent had made copies and was carrying it around. Holding on to the health card if my child wasn't old enough to look after it? Absolutely. Necessary and makes sense.

But a parent carrying around an extra copy of my child's private health information with no idea how it was being stored and protected? No.

And with all of the concern here, in particular, about school permission forms etc. being used to vax children without parental consent? Again, I'd sign a permission form provided by an organization I trusted and could review, but not something a parent whipped up and handed me.

For your own protection, I'd just share your concerns with leadership and ask them when forms will be signed and who will carry them. It might save you the headache of trying to come up with all of this yourself. The organization really should be looking after all of this for you.

06-25-2019, 05:02 AM	#1
KarenBoo Rose Garden Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: central FL Posts: 6,022	Crossing state lines with a minor This weekend our Scout troop is driving to our summer camp location in another state. I'm assigned to drive my daughter plus one other girl. It's about a 8 hour drive. The troop is being casual about driving arrangements. One leader will have all of the forms & such, but if I get pulled over, what do I need to have in my car that gives me permission to have this other girl in the car? __________________ Married to DH for 29 years! Mama to very sweet DD1 "Kitten" 5/03 and our very sweet DD2 "Monkey" 1/08 crunchy, homeschooling, and focused on healing with diet, homeopathy, and QRI cold laser reflex integration

06-25-2019, 05:11 AM	#2
twoplustwo Moderator Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 6,533	Re: Crossing state lines with a minor Interesting. I don't know of anything that I am aware of. I have driven both boy and girl scouts across state lines and didn't have anything in my car (the leader had all paperwork with her/him in that car). If there is something I am interested to know the procedure. __________________ ESFJ DYT 3/2, Enneagram 9w8 married to My Guy (2003) mom to: Cherished (dd, 12/2005) Warrior (ds, 07/2007) saved & baptized (2004) Simon Peter answered, “You are the Messiah, the Son of the living God.” Matthew 16:16

06-25-2019, 06:47 AM	#3
Little Forest Rose Garden Rich in girls. Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Perth hills, Australia Posts: 6,914	Re: Crossing state lines with a minor Honestly, that would not be a worry on my mind at all. __________________ A traditional Catholic mamma ISFJ, DYT Type 2/1, Steiner-inspired mother to: Sweet Pea-DD1, Jan 04, 1/4 Tiger Lily-DD2, Jan 06, 2/1 Buttercup-DD3, Feb 08, 2/4 Dandelion-DD4, Nov 10, 2/3 Honeysuckle-DD5 March 13, 2/4 And there is DH too, ISTJ, DYT 4/2, I think!

06-25-2019, 06:55 AM	#4
mamacat Rose Garden Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 26,473	Re: Crossing state lines with a minor As long as the leader has the parental consent and emergency contact forms I think legally you are fine but might be a good idea to have a copy of that info yourself since you are in different vehicles and not together as a group in a van __________________ ~Catherine~ Mama to 5: C W C J S And Grandma to 3: A ,K and baby C

06-25-2019, 05:51 PM	#5
hollybells Deactivated Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 4,751	Re: Crossing state lines with a minor Things must be a lot different in the States. It wouldn't cross my mind to be concerned if we went into Quebec with extra kids or if our kids were with others. The only thing I'd want to make sure they had was their provincial health card. Otherwise … If we were crossing into the U.S. that would be a completely different thing. It came up with rep hockey and passports (obviously for all) and notarized letters are required for kids / teens travelling without their own parents. Are there issues crossing into different states?

06-25-2019, 07:40 PM	#7
Virginia Rose Garden Don't mind my faces. They usually don't mean anything. Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Virginia Posts: 8,644	Re: Crossing state lines with a minor I would absolutely make sure I had a note written and signed by the parent. I agree with PP about sex trafficking being a concern, and I also would just rather be safe than sorry in general and cover my own butt Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ Christine WAHM as writer/editor; part-time high school teacher; wife to pharmacist DH since 7.31.2010 Lila in heaven, 8/2015 DD1 "KO" born 8/2017 DD2 GIRL born 1/2020 My Blog- full of opinions and teacher stories

06-26-2019, 12:32 AM	#8
MaySunflowers Deactivated Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: UK Posts: 7,781	Re: Crossing state lines with a minor Well, here if a parent wants to fly alone with their own child it is best to bring a letter from the other parent stating knowledge and permission. Maybe something similar to ease your mind? Sent from my EVA-L09 using Tapatalk

06-26-2019, 03:04 PM	#9
Virginia Rose Garden Don't mind my faces. They usually don't mean anything. Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Virginia Posts: 8,644	Re: Crossing state lines with a minor Here is a sample letter: https://philalegal.org/html/Sample_l..._to_travel.pdf You write the names and dates of travel, as well as the addresses of final destinations. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ Christine WAHM as writer/editor; part-time high school teacher; wife to pharmacist DH since 7.31.2010 Lila in heaven, 8/2015 DD1 "KO" born 8/2017 DD2 GIRL born 1/2020 My Blog- full of opinions and teacher stories

06-26-2019, 03:13 PM	#10
mamacat Rose Garden Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 26,473	Re: Crossing state lines with a minor The only time I have heard of any travel restriction was if the child was in a county/state foster care system which I assume isnt the case here or you would have said. __________________ ~Catherine~ Mama to 5: C W C J S And Grandma to 3: A ,K and baby C

06-26-2019, 10:16 PM	#11
tazmom Rose Garden Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 7,740	Re: Crossing state lines with a minor I take kids without their parents on field trips all the time for my job. None of the kids look like they could be my biological children. If I have more than one vehicle transporting kids, I make sure the driver has the permission slips for the children riding in their vehicle. I know the liability issues are different with a company sponsored trip vs privately transporting children. If you're really worried, I would ask for a copy of the permission slips from the leader. __________________ Michelle Bearer of the Sceptre of Sympathetic Strength Wife to the car guy for 21 years Mom to my kids T - Fifteen A - Thirteen Z - Ten

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