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Old 02-25-2010, 01:21 PM   #61
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well her argument was that she was NOT raised this way... but...
Oh. Sorry.

But still. Do adults who were raised under this material not struggle with disobedience? Have they somehow attained a higher level of godliness than, say, the Apostle Paul who confessed that he didn't do the things he knew he should and he did the things he knew he shouldn't? Or struggling with sin not talked about amongst adults in this subculture? I'm asking these as sincere questions.

There are areas in my life where I struggle with obeying God's word. Like, daily. It's never occurred to me to blame the way my parents raised me.

I don't know. It's making my brain hurt to try to understand this theology.
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Old 02-25-2010, 09:40 PM   #62
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subbing... I just experienced the hostility.

There are some great responses here... I want to come back to read them all!
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Crystal, your thoughts in this thread have been super helpful to me. Bless you!

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Old 02-26-2010, 09:24 AM   #64
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A supporter has surfaced on my facebook. Declaring that every child needs a whip as they get older.
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Old 02-26-2010, 09:32 AM   #66
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I was disturbed while looking at their facebook page today to discover that Debi Pearl is writing another book. She is writing a book for single women about marriage. Because you know, CTBHHM isn't enough to get a woman to be a doormat in a marriage, she needs to prep women to be that in a courtship, too.
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I was disturbed while looking at their facebook page today to discover that Debi Pearl is writing another book. She is writing a book for single women about marriage. Because you know, CTBHHM isn't enough to get a woman to be a doormat in a marriage, she needs to prep women to be that in a courtship, too.
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I am worn out arguing with these people. About 90% of my stomach aches come from pure stress. I cannot understand how people think any of this stuff is reasonable!
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Oh. Sorry.

But still. Do adults who were raised under this material not struggle with disobedience? Have they somehow attained a higher level of godliness than, say, the Apostle Paul who confessed that he didn't do the things he knew he should and he did the things he knew he shouldn't? Or struggling with sin not talked about amongst adults in this subculture? I'm asking these as sincere questions.

There are areas in my life where I struggle with obeying God's word. Like, daily. It's never occurred to me to blame the way my parents raised me.

I don't know. It's making my brain hurt to try to understand this theology.
There are people who believe it is possible to achieve sinless perfection in this lifetime. It is a horrible life to live, filled with legalism and fear. My experience with it is that it takes a LOT of mental twisting effort to distract from the truth of yourself. For example, "I didn't lose my temper, that was righteous anger aimed at sinful and depraved behavior!" It's very very sick
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There are people who believe it is possible to achieve sinless perfection in this lifetime. It is a horrible life to live, filled with legalism and fear. My experience with it is that it takes a LOT of mental twisting effort to distract from the truth of yourself. For example, "I didn't lose my temper, that was righteous anger aimed at sinful and depraved behavior!" It's very very sick
Is Michael Pearl one of those people? I thought I had heard that about him, but I can't seem to find anything to verify it. sounds like him though.
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