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01-09-2012, 12:05 AM | #1 |
Rose Blossom
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"Under Loving Command"
Apparently this was a booklet published in the late 1960s... Someone put it on their FB last night with the heading, "Long, but so helpful!"
I literally felt nauseous reading it. My heart just hurts for children that are put through this type of "discipline." http://www. ntmu.net/lovingcommand.htm
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01-09-2012, 01:35 AM | #2 |
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Re: "Under Loving Command"
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01-09-2012, 02:37 AM | #3 |
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01-09-2012, 07:11 AM | #4 |
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Re: "Under Loving Command"
I read the first section and couldn't finish. I don't understand why this is so hard: you can't study the english language and american culture to interpret a thousands of years old text.
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01-09-2012, 07:34 AM | #5 |
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Re: "Under Loving Command"
I always wonder how it is these adults believe God is "chastening" them
"oh, I lost my job. I need to figure out what God is punishing me for..." "Whoa, that was a bad fall - and no good reason for it. I think it must be God telling me to not keep eating sweets when I have promised Him I would stop." Is it like that? |
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01-09-2012, 07:48 AM | #6 |
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Re: "Under Loving Command"
Might want to break that link.
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01-09-2012, 08:35 AM | #7 |
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Re: "Under Loving Command"
The first paragraph under "All Parents Train Their Children" is exactly what Voddie Bauchum said in the video flowermama posted in this thread http://www.gentlechristianmothers.co...d.php?t=433689
I wonder if he got some of his ideas from this.
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01-09-2012, 08:38 AM | #8 |
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Re: "Under Loving Command"
This is the worst aspect of punitive parenting - the idea that grace is for adults and never for children
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01-09-2012, 11:35 AM | #9 | |
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Re: "Under Loving Command"
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Okay, so it might not have been preached quite that simplistically, but that was the idea.
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01-09-2012, 11:43 AM | #10 | |
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01-09-2012, 09:15 AM | #11 |
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Re: "Under Loving Command"
I don't know if it will do any good, but I sent an email to the "contact us" address, basically explaining the responsibility of "teachers of the Word" to be careful what they teach, since God holds them to a higher standard. This is a particularly dangerous topic to be wrong about, since the Bible talks about "causing little ones to stumble" and millstones around the neck. I also mentioned something about advising parents to do something that is legally considered child abuse in many states (are you telling parents to disobey the law of the land?)
Not sure I'll get an answer, but I couldn't just let it go.
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01-09-2012, 09:21 AM | #12 |
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Re: "Under Loving Command"
I feel like I read much of that somewhere before- almost word for word, but I've never heard of them before.
Maybe Dobson? It's going to bug me until I figure it out. Oh, and it is .
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01-09-2012, 09:38 AM | #13 |
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Re: "Under Loving Command"
i just briefly skimmed it... but
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01-09-2012, 09:24 PM | #14 |
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Re: "Under Loving Command"
I've read that before -- and I was so mad I was spitting nails afterward.
The author also very clearly states that Proverbs 22:6 is a promise.
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01-11-2012, 07:00 AM | #15 |
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Re: "Under Loving Command"
We had been excited to visit a particular church, and went out of our way on our vacation to be able to do so. When I walked into the sanctuary I had a sense of heaviness, though. The men were hale and hearty, but the women and children...were depressed and oppressed.
Children sat in service very quietly but when a toddler near us began to fuss the tiniest bit, her fuss turned to a sound of quiet fear as her father carried her out of the sanctuary. My heart sank and my stomach turned. As we left I saw that pamphlet on a table in the foyer and knew that my instincts about what was going on in that room were correct. |
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