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Old 12-08-2016, 09:07 AM   #1
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Default Need Sheepherding a Child's Heart rebuttals ASAP!

It's been so long since I got in a conversation with anyone about this that I've completely forgotten the issues with this book! It's come up on my homeschool FB group, though. Links I can post, please???
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Default Re: Need Sheepherding a Child's Heart rebuttals ASAP!

It's been a long time for me, too, but I could use whatever comes up in this thread. If I can make the time I'll do some internet exploring, too.

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Skimmed this, it seems to hit on the meaning of 'the rod' which is one of Tripps main premises:

http://www.motheringbygrace.com/blog...-childs-heart/
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Old 12-08-2016, 09:52 AM   #3
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Default Re: Need Sheepherding a Child's Heart rebuttals ASAP!

Search at Hermana Linda's blog for Tripp and you'll find links to reviews.
http://whynottrainachild.com/?s=Tripp
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Default Re: Need Sheepherding a Child's Heart rebuttals ASAP!

There is a long SACH stuck to the top of the page. I had the same thought that you did, but couldn't remember what I didn't like about the book since it had been so long.
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Default Re: Need Sheepherding a Child's Heart rebuttals ASAP!

'Spank-um till they're sweet' and 'heart bottom connection'
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There is a long SACH stuck to the top of the page. I had the same thought that you did, but couldn't remember what I didn't like about the book since it had been so long.


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Search at Hermana Linda's blog for Tripp and you'll find links to reviews.
http://whynottrainachild.com/?s=Tripp
Thank you. This link might not come up in the search.

http://tripptomars.blogspot.com/?m=1

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http://whynottrainachild.com/tag/she...-childs-heart/

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Default Re: Need Sheepherding a Child's Heart rebuttals ASAP!

Anyone ever just feel despair at how deeply entrenched and widespread the ideas of the pearl's and their whole worldview are in Christendom? Especially as a new Christian, when the pastor's and leaders and long-time believers are all telling you that if you don't spank em' young, and spank em' til their will is broken, you don't love your children- it causes so much doubt. Struggling through this. Struggling to have confidence. Struggling with the fear of someday being confronted with "church discipline" for not spanking if my husband goes into ministry.
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Anyone ever just feel despair at how deeply entrenched and widespread the ideas of the pearl's and their whole worldview are in Christendom? Especially as a new Christian, when the pastor's and leaders and long-time believers are all telling you that if you don't spank em' young, and spank em' til their will is broken, you don't love your children- it causes so much doubt. Struggling through this. Struggling to have confidence. Struggling with the fear of someday being confronted with "church discipline" for not spanking if my husband goes into ministry.
I think this has to be regional. The first place (and I think only place) I ever heard of it was here and I don't know a single person IRL who does it.
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Anyone ever just feel despair at how deeply entrenched and widespread the ideas of the pearl's and their whole worldview are in Christendom? Especially as a new Christian, when the pastor's and leaders and long-time believers are all telling you that if you don't spank em' young, and spank em' til their will is broken, you don't love your children- it causes so much doubt. Struggling through this. Struggling to have confidence. Struggling with the fear of someday being confronted with "church discipline" for not spanking if my husband goes into ministry.
I've been a Christian and regular church attender for all of my 44 years.

I never heard of any of these books or parenting methods until I came to GCM.

It is largely regional as well as denominational.

I grew up in the north (Wisconsin) and in suburban culture there, spanking is considered a rather ignorant way to try and discipline children. If you threaten a child with a spanking in public, you'll get dirty looks. It's in the same boat as smoking. "Are you really still doing that, given ask the knowledge about how harmful itv is? Come on, grow up."

Growing up 90% of the people I knew were Lutheran, Roman Catholic, Jewish, or Episcopalian. I never met a Baptist person until I was in my 30s and moved to Tennessee. That was a huge culture shock. People openly spank their kids at a park in the suburbs! I was really shocked.
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