TMJ - treatment options? - Page 2

ValiantJoy07 · 01-28-2015, 07:29 PM

I was going to say check for posterior tongue tie.

it isn't the same as a traditionally recognized tongue tie. it has been tied to TMJ and neck and migrain issues in adults. Cranial sacral can help with it but getting the tie revised before seems to be the most effective.
One of the many https://nursingrubysue.wordpress.com...-a-tongue-tie/

http://www.tonguetie.net/index.php?o...task=view&id=3

ReadingMommy · 01-28-2015, 07:40 PM

Subbing to have access to the info too...I have wondered if I have TMJ.

tempus vernum · 01-28-2015, 08:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ValiantJoy07

I was going to say check for posterior tongue tie.

it isn't the same as a traditionally recognized tongue tie. it has been tied to TMJ and neck and migrain issues in adults. Cranial sacral can help with it but getting the tie revised before seems to be the most effective.
One of the many https://nursingrubysue.wordpress.com...-a-tongue-tie/

http://www.tonguetie.net/index.php?o...task=view&id=3

From what I can tell, tongue tie is not an issue. She was examined by the ENT that repaired our son's tongue tie. I checked the posterior but hers looks normal to me eye

We've tried a lot of things for her tmj and for her migraines.

We live w the hope that something will help

right now, we r managing w meds, acupuncture and PT but PT benefits are ending and meds continue to cause reflux. Acupuncture is helping a ton but in between treatments she's still miserable

Here's the list of unsuccessful
*chiropractic - manual and w activator
*homeopathics
*tmj specialist and night splint
*meds/tons - narcotics, antidepressants, migraine drugs, NSAIDs, muscle relaxers and opiates

Helpful but not curing
*acupuncture
*PT and home exercises/stretching
*postural education
*moist heat
*herbs (some work and some don't)- we use an herbal anti inflammatory and connective support
*arnica, tiger balm and magnesium spray to back/neck and jaw

We r tired but she's at least made *some* progress the past few weeks. Hoping she continues to improve and it gets less bumpy.

I'm currently reading TMJ No More.

ThreeKids · 01-28-2015, 09:34 PM

Does she have Ehlers Danlos syndrome?

blondie · 01-28-2015, 09:52 PM

Havent read other posts. Chiro care has almost eliminated my tmj. It was so awful in my teens and we never knew what to do. It never bothers me now unless my neck is out of alignment.

Mother of Sons · 01-28-2015, 10:06 PM

I have Tmj. A night splint on my front teeth did help (I clench) but I think my sleep apnea is what aggravates it the most (causes the clenching)

LilacPhoenix · 01-29-2015, 03:58 PM

I wear a splint all the time, except when I'm eating. As long as I wear it, I don't have issues. I've been wearing splints for twenty years now.

tempus vernum · 01-29-2015, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by ThreeKids

Does she have Ehlers Danlos syndrome?

I've never heard of this but it seems opposite. She's tight as a drum. Probably fight or flight from the severe traumas she's suffered at an early age.

Today was a good day. I didn't mention but one of the reasons that I bumped this was we took her to the regular dentist for an outside opinion because she went from tolerable to not functioning w her splint. The dentist wants us to start over with HIS home care advice for 4-6 weeks before getting a second tmj specialist opinion.

Interestingly, adding the one thing no one told us (which is also in the book "tmj no more"), MOIST heat, seems to be really helping

she's using warm wet washcloths and a rice sock on her neck, temples and jaw.

However, if that's all that's needed

because we've spent a lot of time and money trying to unravel this issue

tempestjewel · 02-05-2015, 12:15 PM

I've been dealing with this, too. Moist heat (two homemade rice packs) on both jaw joints before bed seems to help some.

I've also been doing stretches from Katy Says. With no $ for physical therapy or massage this has been the best way I've been able to help myself so far.

tempus vernum · 03-30-2015, 04:40 PM

Just an update-- my dd is SO SO SO much better. She still has bad days/nights but in general she's coping and managing and it appears that the nighttime issues are more related to her sleep disorder which may or may not be related to the TMJ (the body is such an interconnected thing

). Our acupuncturist is going to begin focusing more on her sleep issues now that her neck and jaw are SO SO SO improved.

She has successfully been discharged from PT and continues to do the following as maintenance
*weekly acupuncture although as I said above more focused on sleep now
*daily stretches
*daily natural muscle relaxer 2 x's a day (good mood tonic)
*as needed arnica pills as well as ointment on her neck and back
*as needed moist heat
*oral magnesium
*daily exercise - walking or riding her bike - I worry the bike riding is hunching but getting her blood pumping REALLY REALLY seems to be a great thing for her.

PT worked but our dentist was right. She wasn't bad enough to need a night splint so that was a waste of time and money. I'm just grateful she's significantly better

updating for those looking for help with this problems and for myself for reminders if we get off track again

01-28-2015, 07:29 PM	#16
ValiantJoy07 Rose Garden "Take Joy Home, And make a place in thy great heart for her...Joy is the grace we say to God." ~Jean Ingelow~ Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: The Forest Posts: 16,337	Re: TMJ - treatment options? I was going to say check for posterior tongue tie. it isn't the same as a traditionally recognized tongue tie. it has been tied to TMJ and neck and migrain issues in adults. Cranial sacral can help with it but getting the tie revised before seems to be the most effective. One of the many https://nursingrubysue.wordpress.com...-a-tongue-tie/ http://www.tonguetie.net/index.php?o...task=view&id=3 __________________ Hannah Joy Intuitive People Loving Introvert Married since '05 to Ryan software and web applications developer. Homeschooling Mama to my 5 Joys... dd1 RJ (12/07), dd2 AJ (08/09), dd3 PJ (01/12), ds1 Ziggy (09/15), ds2 Sunny (05/18) Enjoying a Healing Diet to manage SPD and other health challenges. Sorry for the typos and sloppy grammar I don't have a good excuse anymore.

01-28-2015, 07:40 PM	#17
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01-28-2015, 09:34 PM	#19
ThreeKids Rose Garden Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: .. Posts: 10,737	Re: TMJ - treatment options? Does she have Ehlers Danlos syndrome? __________________ DS (12), DD (10), DD2 (7) And my kids were going to behave perfectly all the time and if they didn't, they'd be Dobsoned, but I was going to Dobson so perfectly that they'd know not to slip up but once or twice because I was going to be sooooooo consistent and awesome and wise.

01-28-2015, 09:52 PM	#20
blondie Rose Garden A little bit crunchy, a little bit rock n' roll! Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 10,298	Re: TMJ - treatment options? Havent read other posts. Chiro care has almost eliminated my tmj. It was so awful in my teens and we never knew what to do. It never bothers me now unless my neck is out of alignment. __________________ homeschooling mama to four dear ones Lilla Rose Stylist

01-28-2015, 10:06 PM	#21
Mother of Sons Rose Garden My kid shoots laser beams from his hands Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 21,900	Re: TMJ - treatment options? I have Tmj. A night splint on my front teeth did help (I clench) but I think my sleep apnea is what aggravates it the most (causes the clenching)

01-29-2015, 03:58 PM	#22
LilacPhoenix Rose Garden E's newborn feet; G's 3-yr-old feet Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: South Louisiana Posts: 8,478	Re: TMJ - treatment options? I wear a splint all the time, except when I'm eating. As long as I wear it, I don't have issues. I've been wearing splints for twenty years now. __________________ CMB Wife of P (May 2018) Mommy to two terrific boys, E (July '07) and G (Dec '09), and "bonus mommy" to B (Sept '11) INFPs are a FiNe SiTe to behold! DYT 1/2 My recipe blog! Recipes "I need to live life like some people never will... To ride the wings of dreams into changing horizons." Dream Theater

02-05-2015, 12:15 PM	#24
tempestjewel Climbing Rose Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Washington State Posts: 1,361	Re: TMJ - treatment options? I've been dealing with this, too. Moist heat (two homemade rice packs) on both jaw joints before bed seems to help some. I've also been doing stretches from Katy Says. With no $ for physical therapy or massage this has been the best way I've been able to help myself so far. __________________ Naomi, INFJ, married to my carpenter DH, and mama to DC (19), DD (16), DS (13), DD (9), and DD (7). Plus three kitties, Mango, Mochi, and Lola.

03-30-2015, 04:40 PM	#25
tempus vernum Rose Garden I am the mountain. I am not the storm and the storm is not me. -Ian Cron Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 28,913	Re: TMJ - treatment options? Just an update-- my dd is SO SO SO much better. She still has bad days/nights but in general she's coping and managing and it appears that the nighttime issues are more related to her sleep disorder which may or may not be related to the TMJ (the body is such an interconnected thing ). Our acupuncturist is going to begin focusing more on her sleep issues now that her neck and jaw are SO SO SO improved. She has successfully been discharged from PT and continues to do the following as maintenance weekly acupuncture although as I said above more focused on sleep now daily stretches daily natural muscle relaxer 2 x's a day (good mood tonic) as needed arnica pills as well as ointment on her neck and back as needed moist heat oral magnesium daily exercise - walking or riding her bike - I worry the bike riding is hunching but getting her blood pumping REALLY REALLY seems to be a great thing for her. PT worked but our dentist was right. She wasn't bad enough to need a night splint so that was a waste of time and money. I'm just grateful she's significantly better updating for those looking for help with this problems and for myself for reminders if we get off track again __________________ ~Spring always comes after winter~ 2 Corinthians 4:16 “ Therefore we do not lose heart. Though outwardly we are wasting away, yet inwardly we are being renewed day by day. ” Last edited by tempus vernum; 03-30-2015 at 05:10 PM.*

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