Above Rubies and failed adoptions - Page 3

MrsHutch · 04-05-2012, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by schmamy

and, back to Stacy's derail - why do countries have to close down their orphanages in order to join the EU?!

I'm not really sure. Bulgaria still has them and they are EU, but they had to clean them up quite a bit before joining. I'm pretty sure the EU prefers the foster care system, but there probably weren't enough foster parent volunteers to take in all of the kids. Maybe Romania's orphanages were beyond cleaning up to EU standards, so they shut them down instead.

That's total speculation, but educated speculation, having lived in Moldova and visited Romania multiple times, including two Romanian orphanages in 2001.

Annainprogress · 04-05-2012, 12:04 PM

Romanian orphanages are infamous in Europe I think. certainly in the UK. they used (in the 90s) to be absolutely atrocious for the main part. I had understood they were much better and didn't know that the EU had asked for closure but it may be linked to the historical stuff. or maybe they hadn't cleaned all of them up that much

Hermana Linda · 04-05-2012, 12:43 PM

What I am learning in this thread shines a new light on the Williams Tragedy.

I'm considering linking to this thread in that post, since it is public.

What do you all think?

Can'tTurnLeft · 04-05-2012, 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Hermana Linda

What I am learning in this thread shines a new light on the Williams Tragedy.

I'm considering linking to this thread in that post, since it is public.

What do you all think?

Please remove my posts before you do that

Hermana Linda · 04-05-2012, 12:49 PM

If the info here was not meant to be public, please remove it.

I was not planning to copy anything, only to link to what is already a public thread which is probably being indexed by Google even as we speak. If the info is going to be removed, I will not bother to link.

CelticJourney · 04-05-2012, 02:19 PM

For general adoption information PLEASE spin off a thread in the adoption forum.

schmamy · 04-05-2012, 04:54 PM

a thread already exists, actually:

http://gentlechristianmothers.com/co...d.php?t=443716

Hermana Linda · 04-05-2012, 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by schmamy

a thread already exists, actually:

http://gentlechristianmothers.com/co...d.php?t=443716

but I meant a public thread, like this one.

Ajani · 04-06-2012, 02:58 PM

Really looking forward to the article & book. I know some Above Rubies fans and I imagine they're quite clueless about all of this.

SilverMoon · 04-06-2012, 09:07 PM

I'm looking forward to the article, too. I know several Above Rubies fans, and one of which the family that adopted from Liberia. Some are not clueless, and it's sad to watch from the outside, what little the outside world is allowed to see.

Synesthesia · 04-07-2012, 11:19 AM

I am horrified by this.

nikki k · 04-09-2012, 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Synesthesia

I am horrified by this.

Me to.

hey mommy · 04-09-2012, 09:54 AM

I've never heard of any of this. It's disturbing and interesting.

dakotablue · 04-10-2012, 10:50 AM

I haven't heard about any of this, but am extremely interested and will say I had looked into above rubies before as Dh and I are boarding on quiverfull...we'll see how true it ends up being.

Her recommendation of "Primal Wound" discredits anything she could possibly have to say in my book. Seriously, that book is horrible. Crude, horrible and misleading. As a women who was not raised by her birth mother I can honestly say this is the most offensive 'adoption' book. Not pro and does excuse adoptive parents of all responsibility.

Hermana Linda · 04-10-2012, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by dakotablue

I haven't heard about any of this, but am extremely interested and will say I had looked into above rubies before as Dh and I are boarding on quiverfull...we'll see how true it ends up being.

Her recommendation of "Primal Wound" discredits anything she could possibly have to say in my book. Seriously, that book is horrible. Crude, horrible and misleading. As a women who was not raised by her birth mother I can honestly say this is the most offensive 'adoption' book. Not pro and does excuse adoptive parents of all responsibility.

for that insight.

04-05-2012, 12:04 PM	#32
Annainprogress Rose Garden Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: UK Posts: 11,752	Re: Above Rubies and failed adoptions Romanian orphanages are infamous in Europe I think. certainly in the UK. they used (in the 90s) to be absolutely atrocious for the main part. I had understood they were much better and didn't know that the EU had asked for closure but it may be linked to the historical stuff. or maybe they hadn't cleaned all of them up that much __________________ Anna INfp (I think) single mum to DS 8 & DD 6 enjoying the adventure of WOH p/t Wielder of the Palette Knife of Chocolaty Brownieness rejoicing with those who have escaped abuse, and praying for those still trapped Unite! “I do not feel obliged to believe that the same God who has endowed us with sense, reason, and intellect has intended us to forgo their use.” - Galileo Galilei

04-05-2012, 12:43 PM	#33
Hermana Linda Administrator "air-mannah Leen-dah" it means Sister Linda in Spanish Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 51,849	Re: Above Rubies and failed adoptions What I am learning in this thread shines a new light on the Williams Tragedy. I'm considering linking to this thread in that post, since it is public. What do you all think? __________________ My pages: Why Not Train A Child? and the FB Page as well as @WhyNotTrain on Twitter Read about how my husband was Pulled From The River By God

04-05-2012, 12:49 PM	#35
Hermana Linda Administrator "air-mannah Leen-dah" it means Sister Linda in Spanish Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 51,849	Re: Above Rubies and failed adoptions If the info here was not meant to be public, please remove it. I was not planning to copy anything, only to link to what is already a public thread which is probably being indexed by Google even as we speak. If the info is going to be removed, I will not bother to link. __________________ My pages: Why Not Train A Child? and the FB Page as well as @WhyNotTrain on Twitter Read about how my husband was Pulled From The River By God

04-05-2012, 02:19 PM	#36
CelticJourney Administrator Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 34,561	Re: Above Rubies and failed adoptions For general adoption information PLEASE spin off a thread in the adoption forum. __________________ Elizabeth "Truth without love is divisive and hurtful & love without truth is anemic"--Pastor Estep Arise, cry out in the night...pour out your heart like water in the presence of the Lord; Lift up your hands to him for the lives of your children..; Lamentations 2:19

04-05-2012, 04:54 PM	#37
schmamy Rose Garden Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 7,321	Re: Above Rubies and failed adoptions a thread already exists, actually: http://gentlechristianmothers.com/co...d.php?t=443716 __________________ ~Amy~ married to Mr. Wonderful (2005) DS1 - 2007 DS2 - 2010 DD - April 2017 "But he said to me, 'My grace is sufficient for you, for my power is made perfect in weakness.' Therefore I will boast all the more gladly of my weaknesses, so that the power of Christ may rest upon me." - 2 Corinthians 12:9

04-06-2012, 02:58 PM	#39
Ajani Rose Trellis Learning what I'm called to believe Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Southern Ontario Posts: 3,153	Re: Above Rubies and failed adoptions Really looking forward to the article & book. I know some Above Rubies fans and I imagine they're quite clueless about all of this. __________________ ISFP (Fi Se)- The Artist Married to my high school sweetheart (possible ISTJ) The Boy - 04 (ETJ) Little Miss - 07(IFP) *My Edible Journey* Come share food with me. ~ Courage doesn't always roar. Sometimes courage is the quiet voice at the end of the day saying, "I will try again tomorrow." ~

04-06-2012, 09:07 PM	#40
SilverMoon Rose Garden It takes less time to do a thing right than to explain why you did it wrong. — Henry Wadsworth Longfellow Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 17,122	Re: Above Rubies and failed adoptions I'm looking forward to the article, too. I know several Above Rubies fans, and one of which the family that adopted from Liberia. Some are not clueless, and it's sad to watch from the outside, what little the outside world is allowed to see. __________________ Cynthia "Trust is rebuilt by focusing not on what the other person did or did not do but on critiquing one's own behavior, improving one's trustworthiness, and focusing attention not on words and promises but on actions, attitudes, and ways of being." — Kenneth Cloke and Joan Goldsmith The Art of Waking People Up for the many, many wise voices we've lost married 20 years Mom to: ds1 10/93 dd1 5/95 ds2 5/97 7/96 (twin of ds2) 11/96 Last edited by SilverMoon; 04-07-2012 at 02:17 PM.

04-07-2012, 11:19 AM	#41
Synesthesia Rose Garden Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Near Boston Posts: 10,012	Re: Above Rubies and failed adoptions I am horrified by this. __________________ Is this love big enough to watch over me? Big enough to let go of me Without hurting me, Like the day I learned to swim?-Kate Bush, The Fog Wielder of the Katana of Lepidoptera and General Randomness.

04-09-2012, 09:54 AM	#43
hey mommy Rose Garden I am so hopelessly in love.. Join Date: May 2006 Location: Chillin' in the California hills Posts: 24,678	Re: Above Rubies and failed adoptions I've never heard of any of this. It's disturbing and interesting. __________________ Janice (ISFP), single-mommy to Cias(11) Samuel( 4) and 2 babies in heaven Scully: You know, there is life on this planet. Mulder: I've seen the life on this planet, Scully, that's why I'm looking elsewhere. A Check out my NEW facebook page. I am now a Plexus Ambassador.

04-10-2012, 10:50 AM	#44
dakotablue Rose Trellis Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 2,390	Re: Above Rubies and failed adoptions I haven't heard about any of this, but am extremely interested and will say I had looked into above rubies before as Dh and I are boarding on quiverfull...we'll see how true it ends up being. Her recommendation of "Primal Wound" discredits anything she could possibly have to say in my book. Seriously, that book is horrible. Crude, horrible and misleading. As a women who was not raised by her birth mother I can honestly say this is the most offensive 'adoption' book. Not pro and does excuse adoptive parents of all responsibility. __________________ SAHM Mama to three amazing kiddos Pumpkin Boy born via c/s 10/09 Love Bug Boy VBAC 2/11 Lady Bug VBAC 2/13 Proud wife to Dh since 12/06 Happily co-sleeping, breastfeeding, babywearing and homeschooling. gf/df/soy/nut free enFj

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