Former Pearl followers?

[sadie]

Hey, gay "perverts" also own homes and drive cars. I guess all us good Christians should stop doing that too.

[Wonder Woman]

Dang! My gay cousin breathes too! Well, I wanna be a *good Christian* so here goes....

Where's the turning blue smilie?


I believe in being separate in that there are places I won't go...you won't see me hanging out in the bar on the weekends with my friends who like to party. But I don't believe God requires seclusion and exclusion!

And if the day ever came when getting a marriage license meant signing an affirmation that I believed marriage to be anything other than a "one man- one-woman" union, I could see the argument for not getting one. But for him to advocate that because SanFran let gays get married, I should divorce my dh and just live with him? There aren't words enough in my vocabulary to describe how dumb that is

I agree. Besides, not being married in the eyes of the law could open you up to a lot of problems ... what if my DH were in an accident? I would have no legal right to authorize surgery! Or if he died without a will, I would not inherit any assets that were in his name.

[Hermana Linda]

I hope it would not be out of line for me to mention that I kind of need testimonies from former Pearl followers for my website (which is in my sig.) I hate to keep asking, but many people send Pearl followers and potential Pearl followers to my site and I'd like a more impressive bunch of testimonies for them to read. I kind of feel that they must think, "It looks like nobody is ever unhappy enough with Pearl's to give them up."

[sadie]

Funny you mentioned that, Linda. It's one of the secret reasons I asked.

[ArmsOfLove]

Originally Posted by kiwimumtomykidz

We were given a copy of TTUAC when DD1 was born. Sadly to say we did buy into some of it Our first two children were reared rather punitively for the first 2 and 3 years respectively but praise God we've been able to mend the relationship with years of AP and PD

I still remember you emailing me, Sarah, and talking with you and your dh. I thought you were both so neat and I'm so glad you're still in my life

I am, however, offended that MP feels qualified to tell me what a good and faithful Christian will someday do. So when I don't do that I guess I can imagine what he will think of me

[chelsea]

I read TTUAC and (among many other reasons ) didn't like how he condoned consistently setting up your children for failure. The whole book is basically one incident after another of it, and should be called "To Provoke a Child To Wrath"!

Exactly, Chelsea.

First, I cannot imagine having such a consistantly negative impression of my child.

Second (and most important) why does he teach parents to violate Scripture (not to provoke a child to wrath) in order to accomplish a goal that is not clearly written in the Bible (absolute obedience and absolute authority with swift punishment)??

Not only does it clearly violate this mandate it violates many related principles that are supposed to characterize Chritianity itself. (Christianity's character being defined as Christ-like)

Whenever I've brought this up to Pearl followers they don't have a response except that I'm being nasty somehow. (I guess because what I'm suggeting following Michael Pearl's teaching implies in their lives, gulp)

Just makes me deeply sad and frustrates the stuffing out of me.

Debra Baker

[Soliloquy]

Originally Posted by jadensmom

Dang! My gay cousin breathes too! Well, I wanna be a *good Christian* so here goes....

Where's the turning blue smilie?

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I believe in being separate in that there are places I won't go...you won't see me hanging out in the bar on the weekends with my friends who like to party. But I don't believe God requires seclusion and exclusion!

Exactly. We are not "of this world," but we have been called to live "in this world" and, in our comings and goings, spread the Good News of Jesus. Jesus associated Himself with social outcasts of the Jewish community and ate with them. If people living with the burden of homosexuality don't see/experience the love of Jesus from us, how will they ever know that Jesus loves them? By reading bumper stickers and billboards? I doubt it . . .

[chelsea]

In addition to provoking your children to wrath, setting them up for failure is much worse than that. In the Bible, the times I've read of someone being "set up to fail"...it was never God who was setting them up. It was another "individual" that I won't mention. Take for example Job, or Jesus in the wilderness...God was never the one doing the "setting up". I just don't understand how this can be thought of as something God would want us to do to our children! Whose example are we actually following if we practice those kind of teachings?!