New science & history curriculum by Dr. Wile

Soliloquy · 02-07-2017, 10:26 PM

Just found this via another thread in this forum. I think it looks promising.

The curriculum

Science in the Beginning
Science in the Ancient World
Science in the Scientific Revolution
Science in the Age of Reason

https://www.bereanbuilders.com/cgi-b...&category=ELEM

Dr. Wile's blog post about it
http://blog.drwile.com/?p=11016

Keeping science in its proper perspective as a human invention is very important to me. Studying the history of science, not just the current scientific paradigm (that will undoubtedly change), is a great way to do that.

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There are PDFs to correlate this with SotW and ToG.

The Tickle Momster · 02-08-2017, 08:50 AM

Interesting.

Aerynne · 02-08-2017, 12:02 PM

I bought Science in the Ancient World a few years ago. I ended up not using it (I just had too many things going on so I let science go

) but I am considering using it for next year (mainly depending on what the other mom in my co-op wants to do). I've looked through it and it seems good.

Mother of Sons · 02-08-2017, 12:08 PM

my dislike of him personally makes it hard to want to look at these but I like the way it's broken up.

Aerynne · 02-08-2017, 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Mother of Sons

my dislike of him personally makes it hard to want to look at these but I like the way it's broken up.

Is your dislike of him personally possibly relevant to anyone choosing a curriculum? Meaning is there a reason to steer clear of it based on what kind of person he is?

ShangriLewis · 02-08-2017, 04:45 PM

I've got it in my RR basket. My younger ones just started listening to SOTW 1 and I thought this would be a nice change from what I've used prior.

Soliloquy · 02-16-2017, 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Aerynne

I bought Science in the Ancient World a few years ago. I ended up not using it (I just had too many things going on so I let science go

) but I am considering using it for next year (mainly depending on what the other mom in my co-op wants to do). I've looked through it and it seems good.

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Originally Posted by ShangriLewis

I've got it in my RR basket. My younger ones just started listening to SOTW 1 and I thought this would be a nice change from what I've used prior.

Please share what you think of the book if you decide to use it.

sweetpeas · 02-17-2017, 07:52 AM

It's on my "to do" list to research this book and decide whether to integrate it with SOTW1 next year. So interested in anyone's opinions on that!

Mother of Sons · 02-17-2017, 08:03 AM

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Is your dislike of him personally possibly relevant to anyone choosing a curriculum? Meaning is there a reason to steer clear of it based on what kind of person he is?

Nothing that should keep anyone from buying it. I saw him speak and he was just soooo condescending. It was over a decade ago and it's stuck with me but i wouldn't say someone shouldn't use his curriculum.

Soliloquy · 02-18-2017, 12:03 PM

I was impressed with how he handled his withdrawal from Apologia. The new owners have a vision that includes books on Christian worldview and it is heavy on "this is what Christians believe," including things like young earth, Calvinism, etc. It's very narrow and implies that if you don't believe those things you're not Christian.

My belief is that I'm raising my children to leave me, not to be me. I don't tell my kids what to think or believe and I certainly don't want homeschool books to do that, either. In general I'm leery of homeschool textbooks on worldview, for that reason.

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Originally Posted by Mother of Sons

Nothing that should keep anyone from buying it. I saw him speak and he was just soooo condescending. It was over a decade ago and it's stuck with me but i wouldn't say someone shouldn't use his curriculum.

Yeah, that's very irritating.

Leslie · 02-19-2017, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Mother of Sons

Nothing that should keep anyone from buying it. I saw him speak and he was just soooo condescending. It was over a decade ago and it's stuck with me but i wouldn't say someone shouldn't use his curriculum.

I remember reading along with one of my sons in one of his books (general science or physical science) and I didn't like the way he handled hot politicized topics. He mocked people who believe in global warming. It's not his stance that bothered me, but his tone. I would be fine with that in an editorial article, but not in a science textbook. In science, the evidence should be presented and allowed to speak for itself.

And then shortly after that, he had a full page as his website's Home page promoting vaccines. Again, I don't care what his personal opinion is, but I didn't think he should have used his science textbook sales website for that.

He may conduct himself more professionally now, but it left a bad taste in my mouth for any of his science products.

Thia · 02-21-2017, 04:53 PM

We are 1/3 of the way through the Ancient World book. I appreciate that it is neutral as far as age of the earth. In the past we have stuck with currics that are organized by type (earth/space, chem, bio etc). I'm still not sure I like bouncing around, but I love the history involved. I think it's a good bridge for us since we will use a Great Books approach for middle/high school history/lit.
I know nothing about some of the controversy/issues mentioned in this thread, so this is just my two cents, all that other stuff aside.

Soliloquy · 02-21-2017, 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Thia

We are 1/3 of the way through the Ancient World book. I appreciate that it is neutral as far as age of the earth. In the past we have stuck with currics that are organized by type (earth/space, chem, bio etc). I'm still not sure I like bouncing around, but I love the history involved. I think it's a good bridge for us since we will use a Great Books approach for middle/high school history/lit.
I know nothing about some of the controversy/issues mentioned in this thread, so this is just my two cents, all that other stuff aside.

Thank you, that is a very helpful review.

I have it on my "maybe" list. It just depends on the budget when I go to order and if something else catches my eye instead.

Reva · 02-22-2017, 05:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Mother of Sons

Nothing that should keep anyone from buying it. I saw him speak and he was just soooo condescending. It was over a decade ago and it's stuck with me but i wouldn't say someone shouldn't use his curriculum.

It comes through in his books as well, imo. We've used his Gen Science and Biology I. We switched to another publisher for Chemistry, but went back to Apologia for Biology II-but the new edition, not the one he wrote. My dd used to despise his writings, but I never understood it until I started reading it for myself.

I just don't like his tone.

HuggaBuggaMommy · 02-22-2017, 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Leslie

I remember reading along with one of my sons in one of his books (general science or physical science) and I didn't like the way he handled hot politicized topics. He mocked people who believe in global warming. It's not his stance that bothered me, but his tone. I would be fine with that in an editorial article, but not in a science textbook. In science, the evidence should be presented and allowed to speak for itself.

And then shortly after that, he had a full page as his website's Home page promoting vaccines. Again, I don't care what his personal opinion is, but I didn't think he should have used his science textbook sales website for that.

He may conduct himself more professionally now, but it left a bad taste in my mouth for any of his science products.

That's how I feel, too.

02-07-2017, 10:26 PM	#1
Soliloquy Rose Garden Why climb a mountain? Because it's there! Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Selkirk Mountains Posts: 52,860	New science & history curriculum by Dr. Wile Just found this via another thread in this forum. I think it looks promising. The curriculum Science in the Beginning Science in the Ancient World Science in the Scientific Revolution Science in the Age of Reason https://www.bereanbuilders.com/cgi-b...&category=ELEM Dr. Wile's blog post about it http://blog.drwile.com/?p=11016 Keeping science in its proper perspective as a human invention is very important to me. Studying the history of science, not just the current scientific paradigm (that will undoubtedly change), is a great way to do that. ---------- Post added at 09:26 PM ---------- Previous post was at 09:26 PM ---------- There are PDFs to correlate this with SotW and ToG.

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The Tickle Momster Rose Garden previously mlrowley Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: NW WA Posts: 17,952	Re: New science & history curriculum by Dr. Wile Interesting. __________________ Michelle wife to Tom ('95) Momma to: DD (A) 21 and her DH (YM) 21 DS (T) 19 DD (C) 17 '07 DS (N) 14 Save Save

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Aerynne Rose Garden Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 27,359	Re: New science & history curriculum by Dr. Wile I bought Science in the Ancient World a few years ago. I ended up not using it (I just had too many things going on so I let science go ) but I am considering using it for next year (mainly depending on what the other mom in my co-op wants to do). I've looked through it and it seems good. __________________ Erin born of water and of the Spirit 4/96 married 5/02 Mama to: 2004 2007 2010 2012 2017 2019 Jan 2, 2024 And many I hope to hold in heaven one day

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Mother of Sons Rose Garden My kid shoots laser beams from his hands Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 21,900	Re: New science & history curriculum by Dr. Wile my dislike of him personally makes it hard to want to look at these but I like the way it's broken up.

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Thia Rose Garden Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: NY Posts: 3,755	Re: New science & history curriculum by Dr. Wile We are 1/3 of the way through the Ancient World book. I appreciate that it is neutral as far as age of the earth. In the past we have stuck with currics that are organized by type (earth/space, chem, bio etc). I'm still not sure I like bouncing around, but I love the history involved. I think it's a good bridge for us since we will use a Great Books approach for middle/high school history/lit. I know nothing about some of the controversy/issues mentioned in this thread, so this is just my two cents, all that other stuff aside. __________________ ~Thia~ Wife & Mother Dd Oct 04~Ds Aug 06~Dd Aug 08~Dd Aug 10

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