If you avoid plastic/vinyl . . . - Page 2

mommylove · 01-19-2009, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by afternoonrain

My immediate thought too, was wool. I wonder how easy it would be to naturally waterproof...with lanolin/some kind of oil...or maybe a thin beeswax layer like they use for earthen floors? Maybe I'll experiment...

Edit: To say, "I wonder how easy it would be to naturally waterproof a COTTON liner."

Oooh, good idea. If you experiment, report back. I'd like to hear how it goes.

I was at BB&B over the weekend & found this supposedly eco-friendly liner. http://www.bedbathandbeyond.com/prod...1&SKU=14887059 I didn't buy it because it's still vinyl & disposable, even if it's biodegradable (call me a skeptic), so I'd rather have one that lasts a long time & holds up well to machine washing.

Rabbit · 01-19-2009, 02:28 PM

Hemp canvas will work better than wool, and last considerably longer.

afternoonrain · 01-19-2009, 05:03 PM

Hmmm...I wonder though, if the "natural waterproofing" would hold up in the wash. I'm assuming it might wash out and have to be re-proofed?

*Off to try on some small pieces*

afternoonrain · 01-20-2009, 06:58 AM

Neither of the beeswax swatches I tried worked out too well. The first was mostly beeswax with a bit of coconut oil, and basically resulted in what I expected. The cloth was definitely waterproof, but was very "waxy," like a candle. I tried to saturate the swatches so that the liquid would penetrate through the fibers. The big problem came when I began to "wash" the cloth (by hand.) The beeswax pilled off. Probably great for earthen floors that aren't meant to be flexible.

I tried using more coconut oil than beeswax in the second swatch. I should have thought about this first. Of course, coconut oil melts with even moderately warm water, so my swatch was kind of sticky (and would probably attract dirt debrit and soap?)

Ah, oh well. I love experimenting..so I might try a few more alternatives...

Rabbit · 01-20-2009, 10:50 AM

Are you talking about the natural waterproofing of hemp or wool? Hemp canvas that is tightly woven and a heavy enough grade is spray proof enough without anything added. Wool need lanolin.

jewelmcjem · 01-20-2009, 01:20 PM

We're just using the light cotton outer curtain we had before it's working fine (when dd remembers to tuck it IN the shower, grrr!). I was thinking that heavy canvas or sailcloth should be pretty waterproof -- it's used for sails, after all. But this works fine - it does get wet but no spray out into the bathroom or anything. I wait til it's not dripping, then pull it back outside the tub so it doesn't get mildewy against the tub at the bottom. An added plus -- the grout in the wall tiles doesn't get mildewy as fast either since the air circulates through there better.

01-19-2009, 02:28 PM	#17
Rabbit Deactivated You know how we say, "It works both ways!" Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: In the Neighborhood Posts: 39,704	Re: If you avoid plastic/vinyl . . . Hemp canvas will work better than wool, and last considerably longer.

01-19-2009, 05:03 PM	#18
afternoonrain Climbing Rose Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 1,317	Re: If you avoid plastic/vinyl . . . Hmmm...I wonder though, if the "natural waterproofing" would hold up in the wash. I'm assuming it might wash out and have to be re-proofed? Off to try on some small pieces __________________ Constantly typing as if I am but am not. Forgive my ramblings. I process through typing. That thing says I am an ENFP. It also says I am an ENFJ.

01-20-2009, 06:58 AM	#19
afternoonrain Climbing Rose Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 1,317	Re: If you avoid plastic/vinyl . . . Neither of the beeswax swatches I tried worked out too well. The first was mostly beeswax with a bit of coconut oil, and basically resulted in what I expected. The cloth was definitely waterproof, but was very "waxy," like a candle. I tried to saturate the swatches so that the liquid would penetrate through the fibers. The big problem came when I began to "wash" the cloth (by hand.) The beeswax pilled off. Probably great for earthen floors that aren't meant to be flexible. I tried using more coconut oil than beeswax in the second swatch. I should have thought about this first. Of course, coconut oil melts with even moderately warm water, so my swatch was kind of sticky (and would probably attract dirt debrit and soap?) Ah, oh well. I love experimenting..so I might try a few more alternatives... __________________ Constantly typing as if I am but am not. Forgive my ramblings. I process through typing. That thing says I am an ENFP. It also says I am an ENFJ.

01-20-2009, 10:50 AM	#20
Rabbit Deactivated You know how we say, "It works both ways!" Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: In the Neighborhood Posts: 39,704	Re: If you avoid plastic/vinyl . . . Are you talking about the natural waterproofing of hemp or wool? Hemp canvas that is tightly woven and a heavy enough grade is spray proof enough without anything added. Wool need lanolin.

01-20-2009, 01:20 PM	#21
jewelmcjem Deactivated I knew u were trouble when u walked in . . . Tribble, Tribble, Tribble Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Downriver Detroit Posts: 7,201	Re: If you avoid plastic/vinyl . . . We're just using the light cotton outer curtain we had before it's working fine (when dd remembers to tuck it IN the shower, grrr!). I was thinking that heavy canvas or sailcloth should be pretty waterproof -- it's used for sails, after all. But this works fine - it does get wet but no spray out into the bathroom or anything. I wait til it's not dripping, then pull it back outside the tub so it doesn't get mildewy against the tub at the bottom. An added plus -- the grout in the wall tiles doesn't get mildewy as fast either since the air circulates through there better.

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