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02-12-2011, 12:58 PM | #16 |
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The Botkin situation makes me kind of sad. I actually watched their movie before I found gcm and learned about mutual submission and what being a woman of God actually means. Anywho, those two girls are beautiful, intelligent, talented, etc., and their dad really just creeps me out.
I don't have a problem with daughters staying home if that's what they want. God forbid my child should ever live in a dorm! But I also want them to have their own life, away from me. To me that is healthy. |
02-12-2011, 12:58 PM | #17 | |
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And whoever said that home business were the ideal were right - that is the Biblical way to do thing, doncha know? |
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02-12-2011, 01:19 PM | #18 | |
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Shame it doesn't work out like that in practice . But inevitable, given human nature - power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely .
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02-12-2011, 01:51 PM | #19 |
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02-12-2011, 04:36 PM | #20 |
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02-12-2011, 04:47 PM | #21 |
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O/T, see bolded. Some of the best years of my life were lived in a dorm. They were also at a point where my faith was probably at its strongest. Dorms do not have to be evil incarnate.
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02-12-2011, 06:49 PM | #22 |
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You all fail in far bigger ways than Brandons job. I believe you wear pants.
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02-13-2011, 08:44 PM | #23 |
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One of the things that I find really "off" about the Botkins is, where in the Bible is it written: "Let the teenaged/twenty-something daughters tell the rest of the women on earth how to live our lives"??
And yet they do!!
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Here's a blog talking a bit about Vision Forum: http://www.yehaveheard.com/tag/vision-forum/
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02-15-2011, 01:37 PM | #25 |
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I didn't know 'Beautiful Girlhood' was from Vision Forum!! I've read that book growing up and I thought it was wonderful and still do! I think in most things there is some truth to everything. This book may just be the 'kernel' of good within the whole sphere of VF thinking. I havent read too many other things from them. I might explore it in greater detail for myself before jumping to any conclusions (good or bad). I can tell from all the posts that there are definitely aspects to VF that I also disagree with, but maybe there is some good too.
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02-15-2011, 01:59 PM | #26 |
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02-15-2011, 02:16 PM | #27 |
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I never got that impression when I read it growing up. The book merely encouraged the desires I already had - to be a modest, godly housewife and mother. I guess I dismissed the negative aspects of the book subconciously. Now that I am a wife/mother, I should pull the book out again (if I can find it up in the attic or among the storage boxes). Maybe I'll see it differently, maybe not.
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02-15-2011, 02:22 PM | #28 |
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In my opinion it is not worth sifting through the refuse to find a few nuggets of truth, when the truth is to be had from much purer sources. |
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