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Old 03-27-2005, 06:30 AM   #31
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*blush*

You know, after we used Babywise, any time I got into a conversation with a preggers woman, I'd recommend it and tell people to call our church and tell them where they could buy it. I was a Babywise missionary. I was soooo sure it was the greatest thing since sliced bread.

Sooo. . . I understand your siblings. . . *blush*

And I know at that time, no one thing you would have said would have made me change my mind about BabyWise. But, if you had said you weren't interested, I would have probably left you alone. (And silently thought, "Oh, those poor people. . . They'll have a demanding, me-centered baby and never get any sleep. . ." Yep, I was pretty judgemental. . .)


Like I said, there was no ONE thing that you could have said to change my mind. What it took were lots of little things, over time. So, if you felt like mentioning a couple of things and the opportunity was right--those seeds may bear fruit over time. . .

This gives me some encouragement. I am trying to help a very punitive mama that I know, but she seems very set in her ways and happy with what she is doing. I do not want to be too pushy (b/c I know I wouldn't want her being pushy with me) but she is very open to discissions about discipline, so that's nice... but nothing ever changes, she is very happy being so punitive. What gives me hope is that at one time she was AP, so maybe I can draw her back? And as much as I hate that we have done PD and failed at it once before...the GOOD thing about that is 1) it has made me that much stronger (and see, this time I have all my ducks in a row, tho I dont claim to be perfect and still enjoy reading PD books as much as I can!!), and 2) that does give me something to 'relate' to when I talk to punitive moms who say they tried being PD/GBD/AP but failed at it-I can say, "Hey me too LOL.... but this time I'm not failing and this is what is different: "

Trying to see the glass as half full...
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Old 03-27-2005, 06:32 AM   #32
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: "Everyone has their own way of doing things, and we're really happy with our marriage and our family"...and if that doesn't work, then Palil's, and if that doesn't work somebody better hide the bean dip and the spoon.

you know, the more I think about this, the more torqued I am. How rude to insinuate that we need help. Dh and I are pretty thrilled with each other and even if we weren't, whose business is that?
Yes, this is another thing...why do the Pearl-pushers always insinuate that if you aren't discplining according to the Pearls.... or you aren't reading Debi Pearl's new book on marriage, that your children must be heathens and you must not be putting your dh first in your life?? It *is* rude to insinuate that you need help, imo.
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Old 03-27-2005, 06:44 AM   #33
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The other thing I might do is write back as though they were *surely* joking. Nobody ACTUALLY parents like that, right?

Rotten to the core,

Amy
I agree w/Crystal....that you could take the "Since we are offering up suggestions....."............. but I tell you, I LOVE Amy's reply! And you could totally do this in a non-offensive way! (well, whoever originally sent it to you might be lol) But just say something like "hahaha! Very funny (sender)!!! hahaha! but on a serious note"..... {pretend you didn't know the sender was serious} ....."did you know that these people are VERY controversial in christian circles?" [you are sloooowly getting at what you wanna say] "....oh man they have really been the hot topic of discussion b/c their ideas have been considered child abuse. that's sad, really. and even sadder that they seem to have a following. [sigh]....." and then keep going with "but this did remind me-I recently read a reallllllly good parenting book. it's called _____ by _______. And this one ISNT a joke! " everyone else will say "huh?"
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Old 03-29-2005, 05:53 PM   #34
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You could also reply all and say you have the reader's digest version of the book:

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There was an old woman who lived in a shoe
She had so many children she didn't know what to do (parent out of frustration)
She she gave them some broth without any bread (feed them what you want, not what they need)
And whipped them all soundly and sent them to bed
And then say you're not old & don't live in a shoe, so you won't be following their advice.

Or you can just pretend that you sent that & have a good laugh. I was dying to share this before I had my login back & then couldn't find the post after. Sorry to be joining the discussion so late.
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Old 03-30-2005, 06:52 AM   #35
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Susan! That's the cleverest thing I've heard all day

Our house version:

There was a sweet mama who lived in a shoe
She had many children and knew what to do!
She gave them some bean soup and healthy treats,
Then kissed them and rocked them and sang them to sleep.
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Old 03-30-2005, 09:21 AM   #36
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Originally Posted by amy4dulcimer
Our house version:

There was a sweet mama who lived in a shoe
She had many children and knew what to do!
She gave them some bean soup and healthy treats,
Then kissed them and rocked them and sang them to sleep.
Oh, I love that! That has to go in the AP Mother Goose if it's ever published.
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Old 03-30-2005, 09:25 AM   #37
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Interesting... a discussion of Debi Pearl's "Created to be his helpmeet" is being started on a few blogs... I'm not sure if I want to read the discussions and go down that path, especially since I don't want to read her book... hmmmm....
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