How to know it's the end? UPDATE Pg 2, #22 The end is today 1/25/17

tempus vernum · 01-02-2017, 05:28 PM

If anyone's willing to talk about this, I'd appreciate it. We know it's getting close ...

Our German shepherd is 12.5. He's amazing . Takes two short walks a day and eats and drinks well. He sleeps a lot and is beginning to lose his footing. He's on corydalis (for pain), a joint supplement and fish oil (all prescribed by our vet!) he has a neurological muscle disorder. He shakes and the missteps are due to the brain not being able to communicate w his body.

Lately I'm concerned. He still gets up and gets excited, even frisky like a puppy. But on wet cold days (like today) I see the end. Not sure if the end is jow or the end is just soon...

at the vet last time we got no indication that the end was soon or what to look for but... lately I feel it in my gut that it's soon. And he was just at the vet in the fall.

I don't want to put him down but I don't want him to suffer.

I cannot quite describe how hard it is to hit submit!

Aerynne · 01-02-2017, 05:39 PM

It sounds like he has some time left.

I think when you see how he is and when you know him (plus whatever the vet might say about prognosis) you can just tell. This is just from my experience with two cats.

MudPies · 01-02-2017, 05:50 PM

Trust your gut. Our dog was a big dog, and he got to the point where his hips hurt no matter what. We knew it was getting close. Then one day he could not stand at all. Up to that day he was mostly happy. We knew that it would be tome when he was mostly in pain. We still miss him. Best dog ever. We put him down like 8 years ago

Sweet Life · 01-02-2017, 05:54 PM

I agree that you'll know. For our pet who was a 15yo golden retriever, he showed it with small seizures. My advice is to go to the vet you trust as soon as you do know - we waited too long even though we knew - and it was even harder than it should have been. I'm sorry.

Aerynne · 01-02-2017, 06:08 PM

Around here they have vets that will come to your house just for that purpose. I think it would be much nicer that way!

ECingMama · 01-02-2017, 06:12 PM

I believe you will know.

They won't express pain like we do, so it's important to listen to your gut.

I'm sorry you have this now.

tempus vernum · 01-23-2017, 06:21 PM

The vet believes Xander had a stroke today. The vet said He should recover in 24-48 hrs and he's improving by the hour but we may have a big decision to make this week.

It's been Very difficult already. A roller coaster because the aquapuncture and new meds have made him almost frisky again.

MudPies · 01-23-2017, 07:15 PM

Oh no!! Praying!

sweetpeasmommy · 01-23-2017, 08:06 PM

Praying. My 19 yo cat had a stroke last year and was fine by the next day. I think a lot depends on the severity.

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tempus vernum · 01-23-2017, 08:44 PM

He's not improving a lot anymore. It's just wait and see now! He was drinking and eating by himself but it's so hard. We don't want him to suffer

Soliloquy · 01-24-2017, 08:37 PM

tempus vernum · 01-25-2017, 04:48 AM

I was waiting to connect w Lisa to update --- then I tried and just couldn't speak of it..today will be the day we say goodbye

He took a horrible turn for the worse and every few hours there is another decline. The only option was a neurologist. he's obviously given up. I prayed for confirmation that we were doing the right thing. This morning he had wedged himself in the corner so dh and I tried to shift him around so he wasn't so horribly uncomfortable. We realized we cannot even get him out of the house so I will be calling to find someone to Come to him as soon as DH can get off work. I'm expecting the kids to be very upset. Especially ds and I wanted it not to happen here but truthfully many spots in the house are "Xander's" spots. Only our eldest has memories before we got him and she was only 4 so they are extremely vague. When I told DH, Xander's corner is already going o be difficult to see , especially after the last 48 hrs, he agreed I should call someone in.

My face is puffy, my eyes are swollen and I have been crying for at least 30 of 48 hrs. I keep trying to do everything I can to keep him comfy and there is nothing I can do. And now he cannot leave the house so we must shift him to ensure he's not in a puddle of urine.

So many heartbreaking moments. I have been having to hand feed him food and water because we don't want him dehydrated and adding to his pain. Dd1 got him to drink from the bowl and she insisted it might get better. Ds wailing and processing aloud abt all the things he's not sure he can do again. Dd2 trying to understand over and over asking the same questions.

I'm especially grateful for this thread now. I have read it over and over and over. It's become a bit of a memorial for me already. It's taken me hours to get the courage to post this as I didn't sleep last night!

MudPies · 01-25-2017, 06:28 AM

Oh mama. I am so sorry. Praying for you all today.

sweetpeasmommy · 01-25-2017, 01:06 PM

I'm so sorry. Praying

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tempus vernum · 01-25-2017, 02:51 PM

My gut said now while my heart cried no. He is gone

Xander 5/2004 to 1/25/2017

Went peacefully surrounded his 5 people
Gifted peace by the vet he loved.

We didn't trust the home vet so took him to our amazing vet he loves. It was difficult to get him there but so glad we took him to someone we trust. Once the vet came in he visibly calmed. They treated us extremely well. He was put in their Japanese acupuncture room.

01-02-2017, 05:28 PM	#1
tempus vernum Rose Garden I am the mountain. I am not the storm and the storm is not me. -Ian Cron Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 28,913	How to know it's the end? UPDATE Pg 2, #22 The end is today 1/25/17 If anyone's willing to talk about this, I'd appreciate it. We know it's getting close ... Our German shepherd is 12.5. He's amazing . Takes two short walks a day and eats and drinks well. He sleeps a lot and is beginning to lose his footing. He's on corydalis (for pain), a joint supplement and fish oil (all prescribed by our vet!) he has a neurological muscle disorder. He shakes and the missteps are due to the brain not being able to communicate w his body. Lately I'm concerned. He still gets up and gets excited, even frisky like a puppy. But on wet cold days (like today) I see the end. Not sure if the end is jow or the end is just soon... at the vet last time we got no indication that the end was soon or what to look for but... lately I feel it in my gut that it's soon. And he was just at the vet in the fall. I don't want to put him down but I don't want him to suffer. I cannot quite describe how hard it is to hit submit! __________________ ~Spring always comes after winter~ 2 Corinthians 4:16 “ Therefore we do not lose heart. Though outwardly we are wasting away, yet inwardly we are being renewed day by day. ” Last edited by tempus vernum; 01-25-2017 at 04:52 AM.

01-02-2017, 05:50 PM	#3
MudPies Moderator My kiddos Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: What is a Hoosier???? Posts: 9,978	Re: How to know it's the end? Trust your gut. Our dog was a big dog, and he got to the point where his hips hurt no matter what. We knew it was getting close. Then one day he could not stand at all. Up to that day he was mostly happy. We knew that it would be tome when he was mostly in pain. We still miss him. Best dog ever. We put him down like 8 years ago __________________ Kathy , INFJ Loving Wife to Hubby since 8/97 Mama to Dink 12/06 Link 7/07 Wink 3/10 Pink 12/10 and Tink 5/16 Remembering

01-02-2017, 05:54 PM	#4
Sweet Life Rose Garden Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 8,575	Re: How to know it's the end? I agree that you'll know. For our pet who was a 15yo golden retriever, he showed it with small seizures. My advice is to go to the vet you trust as soon as you do know - we waited too long even though we knew - and it was even harder than it should have been. I'm sorry. __________________ Married mama of 6 yummy blessings = 1 college, 2 high school, 1 middle school, 1 elementary school, 1 preschool

01-02-2017, 06:08 PM	#5
Aerynne Rose Garden Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 27,359	Re: How to know it's the end? Around here they have vets that will come to your house just for that purpose. I think it would be much nicer that way! __________________ Erin born of water and of the Spirit 4/96 married 5/02 Mama to: 2004 2007 2010 2012 2017 2019 Jan 2, 2024 And many I hope to hold in heaven one day

01-02-2017, 06:12 PM	#6
ECingMama Rose Garden Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 16,748	Re: How to know it's the end? I believe you will know. They won't express pain like we do, so it's important to listen to your gut. I'm sorry you have this now. __________________ ENFp Wife who is thankful to be in love....17 years Homeschooling Mom of three....15 DD dancer and 12 DS mountain biker and 5 DD calico critter and dolly mommy 12/2014 8/2015 11/2015 9/2016

01-02-2017, 05:39 PM	#2
Aerynne Rose Garden Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 27,359	Re: How to know it's the end? It sounds like he has some time left. I think when you see how he is and when you know him (plus whatever the vet might say about prognosis) you can just tell. This is just from my experience with two cats. __________________ Erin born of water and of the Spirit 4/96 married 5/02 Mama to: 2004 2007 2010 2012 2017 2019 Jan 2, 2024 And many I hope to hold in heaven one day

01-23-2017, 06:21 PM	#7
tempus vernum Rose Garden I am the mountain. I am not the storm and the storm is not me. -Ian Cron Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 28,913	Re: How to know it's the end? The vet believes Xander had a stroke today. The vet said He should recover in 24-48 hrs and he's improving by the hour but we may have a big decision to make this week. It's been Very difficult already. A roller coaster because the aquapuncture and new meds have made him almost frisky again. __________________ ~Spring always comes after winter~ 2 Corinthians 4:16 “ Therefore we do not lose heart. Though outwardly we are wasting away, yet inwardly we are being renewed day by day. ”

01-23-2017, 07:15 PM	#8
MudPies Moderator My kiddos Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: What is a Hoosier???? Posts: 9,978	Re: How to know it's the end? Oh no!! Praying! __________________ Kathy , INFJ Loving Wife to Hubby since 8/97 Mama to Dink 12/06 Link 7/07 Wink 3/10 Pink 12/10 and Tink 5/16 Remembering

01-23-2017, 08:06 PM	#9
sweetpeasmommy Rose Garden Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 30,329	Re: How to know it's the end? Praying. My 19 yo cat had a stroke last year and was fine by the next day. I think a lot depends on the severity. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ Amy eNFp Wife to ISTJ DH 1997 Mom to one Sweet Boy 10/2004

01-23-2017, 08:44 PM	#10
tempus vernum Rose Garden I am the mountain. I am not the storm and the storm is not me. -Ian Cron Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 28,913	Re: How to know it's the end? He's not improving a lot anymore. It's just wait and see now! He was drinking and eating by himself but it's so hard. We don't want him to suffer __________________ ~Spring always comes after winter~ 2 Corinthians 4:16 “ Therefore we do not lose heart. Though outwardly we are wasting away, yet inwardly we are being renewed day by day. ”

01-24-2017, 08:37 PM	#11
Soliloquy Rose Garden Why climb a mountain? Because it's there! Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Selkirk Mountains Posts: 52,860	Re: How to know it's the end?

01-25-2017, 04:48 AM	#12
tempus vernum Rose Garden I am the mountain. I am not the storm and the storm is not me. -Ian Cron Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 28,913	Re: How to know it's the end? I was waiting to connect w Lisa to update --- then I tried and just couldn't speak of it..today will be the day we say goodbye He took a horrible turn for the worse and every few hours there is another decline. The only option was a neurologist. he's obviously given up. I prayed for confirmation that we were doing the right thing. This morning he had wedged himself in the corner so dh and I tried to shift him around so he wasn't so horribly uncomfortable. We realized we cannot even get him out of the house so I will be calling to find someone to Come to him as soon as DH can get off work. I'm expecting the kids to be very upset. Especially ds and I wanted it not to happen here but truthfully many spots in the house are "Xander's" spots. Only our eldest has memories before we got him and she was only 4 so they are extremely vague. When I told DH, Xander's corner is already going o be difficult to see , especially after the last 48 hrs, he agreed I should call someone in. My face is puffy, my eyes are swollen and I have been crying for at least 30 of 48 hrs. I keep trying to do everything I can to keep him comfy and there is nothing I can do. And now he cannot leave the house so we must shift him to ensure he's not in a puddle of urine. So many heartbreaking moments. I have been having to hand feed him food and water because we don't want him dehydrated and adding to his pain. Dd1 got him to drink from the bowl and she insisted it might get better. Ds wailing and processing aloud abt all the things he's not sure he can do again. Dd2 trying to understand over and over asking the same questions. I'm especially grateful for this thread now. I have read it over and over and over. It's become a bit of a memorial for me already. It's taken me hours to get the courage to post this as I didn't sleep last night! __________________ ~Spring always comes after winter~ 2 Corinthians 4:16 “ Therefore we do not lose heart. Though outwardly we are wasting away, yet inwardly we are being renewed day by day. ”

01-25-2017, 06:28 AM	#13
MudPies Moderator My kiddos Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: What is a Hoosier???? Posts: 9,978	Re: How to know it's the end? UPDATE Pg 2, #22 The end is today 1/25/17 Oh mama. I am so sorry. Praying for you all today. __________________ Kathy , INFJ Loving Wife to Hubby since 8/97 Mama to Dink 12/06 Link 7/07 Wink 3/10 Pink 12/10 and Tink 5/16 Remembering

01-25-2017, 01:06 PM	#14
sweetpeasmommy Rose Garden Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 30,329	Re: How to know it's the end? UPDATE Pg 2, #22 The end is today 1/25/17 I'm so sorry. Praying Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ Amy eNFp Wife to ISTJ DH 1997 Mom to one Sweet Boy 10/2004

01-25-2017, 02:51 PM	#15
tempus vernum Rose Garden I am the mountain. I am not the storm and the storm is not me. -Ian Cron Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 28,913	Re: How to know it's the end? UPDATE Pg 2, #22 The end is today 1/25/17 My gut said now while my heart cried no. He is gone Xander 5/2004 to 1/25/2017 Went peacefully surrounded his 5 people Gifted peace by the vet he loved. We didn't trust the home vet so took him to our amazing vet he loves. It was difficult to get him there but so glad we took him to someone we trust. Once the vet came in he visibly calmed. They treated us extremely well. He was put in their Japanese acupuncture room. __________________ ~Spring always comes after winter~ 2 Corinthians 4:16 “ Therefore we do not lose heart. Though outwardly we are wasting away, yet inwardly we are being renewed day by day. ”

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