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Old 06-18-2017, 08:51 PM   #16
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Wow, that linked blog post was awful to read through.
It was... I couldn't actually finish it.
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Old 06-18-2017, 08:55 PM   #17
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The idea of using "newborn" and "schedule" in the same sentence is , or at least it would be if it didn't cause the heartache it does for babies and parents who fall for that.
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Old 06-19-2017, 01:25 PM   #18
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I think you can pull that off with some babies. I'm not saying that it's a good idea or that the baby won't suffer. Just that you can pull it off with some babies and think it works. I could have probably done that with Jacob and he would have gotten into line pretty quickly.
Ivy would have been a very different story. I have said if I had chosen that approach with her, I don't think she would have survived. Or if she did, she would have been scarred for the rest of her life.
I think my two children sum up the problem with all one size fits all formulas. If you have a passive child or at least one who isn't as intense as others, you can make that work. If you have a child with any amount of spunk, you are fighting your child's nature and that's just a losing battle no matter who wins.
I'll pray, if God could reach me with a four day old newborn, then he can reach this person.
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Old 06-19-2017, 07:31 PM   #19
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Oh gracious! Id never heard of Dr Denmark before! I dare say shes got even worse advice on sleeping and feeding than what Ive heard of Babywise!
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That blog was awful. A 3-day-old baby, being left to CIO without food or water from 10 pm until 6 pm. That is absolutely child neglect. A baby that young can get dehydrated in that amount of time, especially if baby is crying.

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This church I mentioned that loved Dr. Denmark has a very well known singer who is the worship leader. She had her first baby a few years ago and she posted on FB something about "Why is it that the baby sleeps all day except from 10pm to 6am?" She was just trying to be lighthearted (and didn't say anything to indicate she was letting baby CIO or withhold nursing), but I knew from that comment that they'd gotten her with the Dr. Denmark schedule. It broke my heart. I decided not to engage with that comment on FB for my own sanity but .

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I wonder if there is an ethical way to conduct studies on kids whose parents did this kind of thing to them and one on kids whose parents did not and see just what and how profound the short and long term effects of CIO and the like really is. I know cortisol and other hormones have been measured, but I wonder if there is a way to show what else is happening and will continue to happen to those babies. It seems to me that if we can just show how hard this is on them, that parents would abandon these things in a heartbeat.
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