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02-21-2011, 10:40 PM | #166 |
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Re: Talk to me about Vision Forum
So, should ATI, Basic Life Principles and Ron and Joyce Fuhrman be on the list? Or is this list only for VF?
What was the link for ICR?
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02-21-2011, 10:49 PM | #167 | |
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---------- Post added at 05:49 AM ---------- Previous post was at 05:48 AM ---------- Maybe it could be a more general list of people with extreme patriarchy-movement-style teachings?
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02-21-2011, 10:54 PM | #168 |
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Re: Talk to me about Vision Forum
Yeah, I'm thinking that is what it is becoming.
And never mind about ICR, I googled it.
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02-22-2011, 11:33 AM | #169 | |
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Re: Talk to me about Vision Forum
I'm not sure how I missed reading this until now. I knew about the whole patriarchal teachings with Gothard but had never heard of VF.
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This really saddens me as an alumni of ORU. The Green family has really helped the school get back on it's feet and out of debt. The improvements they have done at the campus are wonderful!!!
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02-22-2011, 12:51 PM | #170 |
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Re: Talk to me about Vision Forum
do you mean The Institute for Creation Research ? That is patriarcahal?
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02-22-2011, 01:33 PM | #171 |
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Re: Talk to me about Vision Forum
Would Hobby Lobby's connection to VF be enough for you to boycott the store?....it would create a hardship (maybe its a petty one ) for me to boycott Hobby-Lobby...especially IRT to scrapbooking supplies...we have NOTHING else within a 1.5 hour radius of us. A small section at JoAnn's. That's it. I guess I could order all my stuff from Stampin' Up and Creative Memories.
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02-22-2011, 02:52 PM | #172 |
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Yeah, I was bummed about the Green/Hobby Lobby/VF thing, too. He has done so much good for ORU (and my family has benefited).
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02-22-2011, 02:59 PM | #173 | |
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02-22-2011, 03:29 PM | #174 | |
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02-22-2011, 03:30 PM | #175 | |
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02-22-2011, 03:38 PM | #176 | |
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If I boycotted all the places who I thought had questionable financial practices, I'm not sure where I would shop. Every time you turn around there is somewhere else that has questionable practices and people want to boycott.
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02-22-2011, 04:13 PM | #177 |
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Re: Talk to me about Vision Forum
I'm not generally a boycott happy person.
However, my personal reasons for boycotting HL are pretty simple. First, Patriarchy has directly harmed my family and nearly destroyed my marriage. Second, HL has a tithing policy. They donate 10% to charities of their choosing, and I'm not sure if that's proceeds or profits. However, it is enough to feel as if HL uses my money to directly support beliefs and organizations that nearly destroyed my family and a LOT of other families like mine. |
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02-22-2011, 04:18 PM | #178 |
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Re: Talk to me about Vision Forum
Thanks for the responses.
I guess this is almost worthy of a spin-off...but, where do you all look for information like this? i.e.---I mentioned Creative Memories and Stampin' Up earlier...where would you go to dig up "dirt" (for lack of a better term) on companies like this? Do you dig around on their websites? I never knew about HL until this afternoon. I could probably bypass HL if I put my mind to it. I already buy my yarn from the LYS. We have several quilting stores in the area. So there is my fabric. One of my best friends is a CM consultant, I have a SU consultant....if I would just plan ahead I could really buy all of my scrapping supplies from them. And, we do have a smallish JoAnn's store. Last edited by yellowheart; 02-22-2011 at 04:23 PM. |
02-22-2011, 04:35 PM | #179 |
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Re: Talk to me about Vision Forum
How does Nancy DeMoss fit into this? I know someone mentioned her on an earlier post. I've been googling and trying to find stuff. It appears that a lot of bloggers that support VF like her which is no huge shock. It looks like she may have had an interview posted on VF's site. That's as far as I get.
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02-22-2011, 05:01 PM | #180 |
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I believe that was me - the connection I was referring to was that Voddie Baucham speaks at her True Woman conferences. That, of course, does not mean that she personally agrees with everything he promotes, but he is quite extreme and it is worrisome to me that True Woman would invite him to speak at their conferences.
I'm personally not a fan of her gender advice, her poor exegesis, the way she advises wives and moms when she has never been either and her patriarchal beliefs. In all honesty, I can't say I see much difference between her and VF or Voddie Baucham. Others would strongly disagree. |
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