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MommyInTraining - You've had quite the time of it! Wow. I second KatieKind, please don't feel like God is punishing you. I totally understand the struggle with wondering if you should've chosen something that would be easier, I've struggled with that myself since my 5 short married years have been insane. But I'm learning that the struggles are part of the beauty of it and when I feel like things are too tough I go listen to this song: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Gs3fg_WsEg
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The discussion about VF affiliates has been fascinating to me. After coming out of the crazy I lean toward not being part of anyone who is connected at least by having a VF promoted person as a speaker. So, for example, since True Woman has Voddie Baucham speaking at their conferences I tend to throw out everything else they do. Or since John Piper says MANY things that are way too close to extreme patriarchy for my comfort I don't buy his books or actively seek to learn from him in other areas, even though in other areas he's not that bad. (And that's difficult to do here in Minneapolis, let me tell you! Everyone LOVES him.)
That obviously stems from my hurt and isn't exactly logical, because those I've mentioned aren't considered extreme in the mainstream christian community. There isn't any "good" reason to toss out their teachings.
But I can't help but wonder what would happen if the Christian community took a stronger, more extreme stance against patriarchy and dominionism? I can't help but wonder if everyone avoided christian teachers who even sort of had a whiff of patriarchy on them what would happen in christian leadership? If those who really didn't believe in patriarchy refused to have anything to do with those leaders who associated with them?
I'm not talking about avoiding friends and family who hold to these teachings (although sometimes you might have to) but not supporting anyone who teaches or is viewed as a spiritual authority unless they strongly distance themselves from VF and it's associated bad doctrines?
Maybe it's not good to toss the baby out with the bathwater. But when I can still get plenty of good teaching from places that have NOTHING to do with VF I am going to support those people. I will do everything I can to show others how the doctrines of VF are slowly seeping into mainstream teachings.
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02-19-2011, 09:27 AM
Re: Talk to me about Vision Forum
You've had quite the time of it! Wow. 
I second KatieKind, please don't feel like God is punishing you. I totally understand the struggle with wondering if you should've chosen something that would be easier, I've struggled with that myself since my 5 short married years have been insane. But I'm learning that the struggles are part of the beauty of it and when I feel like things are too tough I go listen to this song: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Gs3fg_WsEg
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