Chapped lips help :(

Chaos Coordinator · 01-23-2015, 03:48 PM

Please help. I'm sooo frustrated. I've lived with chapped lips since childhood. I've managed it with putting on Chapstick before bed for a few years, then with eczema meds for like one year (rx from dermatologist).

Then I thought I finally found the trigger - eggs. Went egg free, bam perfect.

Then I had third baby. Now since him, they're also triggered by onions and garlic. I suspected those things really only have sulfur in common, or else I'm allergic to eggs and alliums.

Then we got some water with added minerals including mag sulfate and whoa cow, my lips got so bad. So I switched water and have been very painstaking about monitoring sauces and making things myself so they are garlic and onion free.

I suspected it was maybe yeast. I've had oral thrush before from inhaled steroids and strong abx. Kwim? And all my makeup was really old so, ew, who knows what's going on. And I know sulfur can cause yeast to flare.

So I've treated for yeast (topical anti fungal, all laundry treated with bac out, treating every family member with probiotics, and I've taken three once daily doses of diflucan which has red dye in it btw so yay.) and cut out all the sulfur foods I could think of including dried fruits, wine, onions, garlic, eggs, and water with added minerals.

My lips were awesome for a day and a half! Then I had a cup of organic chai tea with whole cow milk and morena sugar, and a slice of cheese. Bam. Chapped again.

I just want pretty lips. I'm tired of having crusty lips. It's gross.

Hopetobe · 01-23-2015, 06:01 PM

Wow, I'm sorry, that seems so complicated. Sorry I just have a

to offer.

ETA: It sounds like you may be dealing with more than just normal chapped lips, but thought I'd ask - You are getting plenty of healthy fats and keeping hydrated, right?

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Pragmatist · 01-23-2015, 06:58 PM

I don't know how the allergens affect it but I'm prone to chapped lips and lanolin works the best for me.

camperjen · 01-23-2015, 07:45 PM

Yeah, lanolin is great, and Blistex can really help, too. I'm sorry about the food frustrations.

I wish you could figure something out that would *stick*.

MrsDuck · 01-23-2015, 08:37 PM

That sounds really frustrating. I have a recipe for home made body butter that I use as Chapstick when I need something. I can post it you want. It has beeswax, jojoba, cocoa butter, and honey. Lots of honey.

Chaos Coordinator · 01-23-2015, 08:45 PM

Oh yeah...that's the problem with going to the doctor...dehydration wouldn't account for twenty years of chapped lips. I used to drink a gallon of water a day and still had to manage my lip chapped ness.

Why does it take regular application of products to help it?? Kwim? It shouldn't. Man was not born with chapped lips. I mean maybe some babies are at birth...anyways!

I'd get zero help going into the doctor and saying yes I'm nursing and I mostly only drink coffee, otherwise my metabolism plummets and my attention span goes out the window.

What a tangled web we weave

---------- Post added at 09:45 PM ---------- Previous post was at 09:44 PM ----------

Btw I did go to the doctor over the summer and tell them that my metabolism sucked and I was exhausted and couldn't focus...he suggested I lose weight and get more active. Thaaaanks

ArmsOfLove · 01-24-2015, 07:21 AM

ime chapstick makes it worse - actually dries out my lips. Lanolin - I would just use the nursing mother's stuff when I was nursing - and unpetroleum products work a lot better for me.

It could be an allergic reaction - and, possibly, to something in your environment and not necessarily your diet. Have you seen an allergist?

mamacat · 01-24-2015, 08:17 AM

You know what helps heal mine the most is raw honey!

Chaos Coordinator · 01-24-2015, 09:07 AM

No I haven't seen an allergist for myself but the one i saw for my son was a complete joke.

---------- Post added at 10:07 AM ---------- Previous post was at 10:06 AM ----------

I had a slice of ds1's cinnamon apples (just apple slices and cinnamon) last night and my chest got tight like it does when I eat bananas.

ValiantJoy07 · 01-24-2015, 12:16 PM

Does cinnamon often bother you? Cinnamon bothers my youngest a LOT and we couldn't figure it out. We recently realized we were using the "bad" kind of cinnamon.

Well anyway you might have seen this already,
http://nursegonenatural.com/what-you...make-you-sick/

Or do you think it was the peel of the apple? I can't handle apple peels.

my mouth and lips break out in sores from them and my tongue gets all itchy. I have similar reactions to kiwi and mango but I haven't figured out exactly why...I just avoid them.

I am really considering doing a hard core "strict" Paleo Autoimmune protocol for a year. I just don't know if this is the season to do it. I have done it for a few weeks at a time to reboot, but it's hard and would take a big commitment to do it for a long time.

Chaos Coordinator · 01-24-2015, 12:59 PM

I was considering aip too although you're right about it needing to be the right season. My oldest ds needs it as well but my mil parades all kinds of junk through the house so it would just be asking for trouble.

The apples were peeled. It was definitely cheap "cinnamon" on the apples, but the tazo chai tea was not cheap and should not have contained the fake stuff

One of my worst ever break outs involved a staph infection after dh switched to a cinnamon tooth paste, so I def think this link is worth following, I'm just not sure where to head next with it....I might take a few days off and then retry the tea. Or the apple. Either one.

My lips feel great today. I applied probiotic powder mixed with almond oil. They feel almost normal.

MaySunflowers · 01-26-2015, 12:25 AM

Could it be your lips need to be coated before you eat anything, like a barrier? Maybe it is the things touching them more than allergies.

Chaos Coordinator · 01-26-2015, 06:11 AM

Yesterday was bad again.

I've been showing signs of oral allergy syndrome to carrots, spinach, maybe the apple now too. Maybe it's related to that?

mamacat · 01-26-2015, 09:29 AM

A GSE ointment with glycine healed my sons mouth sores before but he had to keep applying until it was really healed.I think the raw honey helps because it helps heal but also makes that protective barrier on lips

KarenBoo · 02-07-2015, 02:27 PM

I know this thread has gone by the wayside, but I saw an article and it made me remember this thread! Maybe this could be some help to you.

http://drkarafitzgerald.com/node/135

01-23-2015, 03:48 PM	#1
Chaos Coordinator Rose Garden They need freedom to just be fluffy mashed potatoes and feel their fluffy feelings. Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Up to my earballs in little boys. Posts: 20,259	Chapped lips help :( Please help. I'm sooo frustrated. I've lived with chapped lips since childhood. I've managed it with putting on Chapstick before bed for a few years, then with eczema meds for like one year (rx from dermatologist). Then I thought I finally found the trigger - eggs. Went egg free, bam perfect. Then I had third baby. Now since him, they're also triggered by onions and garlic. I suspected those things really only have sulfur in common, or else I'm allergic to eggs and alliums. Then we got some water with added minerals including mag sulfate and whoa cow, my lips got so bad. So I switched water and have been very painstaking about monitoring sauces and making things myself so they are garlic and onion free. I suspected it was maybe yeast. I've had oral thrush before from inhaled steroids and strong abx. Kwim? And all my makeup was really old so, ew, who knows what's going on. And I know sulfur can cause yeast to flare. So I've treated for yeast (topical anti fungal, all laundry treated with bac out, treating every family member with probiotics, and I've taken three once daily doses of diflucan which has red dye in it btw so yay.) and cut out all the sulfur foods I could think of including dried fruits, wine, onions, garlic, eggs, and water with added minerals. My lips were awesome for a day and a half! Then I had a cup of organic chai tea with whole cow milk and morena sugar, and a slice of cheese. Bam. Chapped again. I just want pretty lips. I'm tired of having crusty lips. It's gross. __________________ Joy Progressive Methodist Enfp mama to Sparrow, 10 Zion, 7.5 Baby Gus, 4.5 Preschool teacher. Musician. Timelord. Www.justicemercymayhem.wordpress.com "What you plant in the kingdom will surely grow, and what you grow with love will surely bloom, and the fruit of the spirit will come back to you."

01-23-2015, 06:01 PM	#2
Hopetobe Rose Garden Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: "Sun, sun, sun, sunny day" Posts: 3,844	Chapped lips help :( Wow, I'm sorry, that seems so complicated. Sorry I just have a to offer. ETA: It sounds like you may be dealing with more than just normal chapped lips, but thought I'd ask - You are getting plenty of healthy fats and keeping hydrated, right? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ Probably on my phone, and Andrea INTP, DYT 4/1 Wife to B ~9yrs Mom to E 3yo & L 1yo 10/13/09

01-23-2015, 06:58 PM	#3
Pragmatist Rose Garden Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Idaho Posts: 4,924	Re: Chapped lips help :( I don't know how the allergens affect it but I'm prone to chapped lips and lanolin works the best for me. __________________ Sara (ISTJ) married to V since 7/99 Strawberry Shortcake- 3/07 Huckleberry Pie- 9/11

01-23-2015, 07:45 PM	#4
camperjen Rose Trellis i love life! Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Akron/Canton, OH Posts: 2,028	Re: Chapped lips help :( Yeah, lanolin is great, and Blistex can really help, too. I'm sorry about the food frustrations. I wish you could figure something out that would stick. __________________ Jen 54, Dan 59 Alex 18 Nathan 17

01-23-2015, 08:37 PM	#5
MrsDuck Rose Bouquet Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 714	Re: Chapped lips help :( That sounds really frustrating. I have a recipe for home made body butter that I use as Chapstick when I need something. I can post it you want. It has beeswax, jojoba, cocoa butter, and honey. Lots of honey. __________________ ****************** Mrs Duck Blessed to be a Stay at Home-schooling Mama to: DS1 - Snugglebug - Nov. '08 DS2 - Wiggles - May '12

01-23-2015, 08:45 PM	#6
Chaos Coordinator Rose Garden They need freedom to just be fluffy mashed potatoes and feel their fluffy feelings. Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Up to my earballs in little boys. Posts: 20,259	Re: Chapped lips help :( Oh yeah...that's the problem with going to the doctor...dehydration wouldn't account for twenty years of chapped lips. I used to drink a gallon of water a day and still had to manage my lip chapped ness. Why does it take regular application of products to help it?? Kwim? It shouldn't. Man was not born with chapped lips. I mean maybe some babies are at birth...anyways! I'd get zero help going into the doctor and saying yes I'm nursing and I mostly only drink coffee, otherwise my metabolism plummets and my attention span goes out the window. What a tangled web we weave ---------- Post added at 09:45 PM ---------- Previous post was at 09:44 PM ---------- Btw I did go to the doctor over the summer and tell them that my metabolism sucked and I was exhausted and couldn't focus...he suggested I lose weight and get more active. Thaaaanks __________________ Joy Progressive Methodist Enfp mama to Sparrow, 10 Zion, 7.5 Baby Gus, 4.5 Preschool teacher. Musician. Timelord. Www.justicemercymayhem.wordpress.com "What you plant in the kingdom will surely grow, and what you grow with love will surely bloom, and the fruit of the spirit will come back to you."

01-24-2015, 07:21 AM	#7
ArmsOfLove Rose Garden Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 79,607	Re: Chapped lips help :( ime chapstick makes it worse - actually dries out my lips. Lanolin - I would just use the nursing mother's stuff when I was nursing - and unpetroleum products work a lot better for me. It could be an allergic reaction - and, possibly, to something in your environment and not necessarily your diet. Have you seen an allergist? __________________ Crystal "When someone shows you who they are, believe them the first time." Maya Angelou

01-24-2015, 08:17 AM	#8
mamacat Rose Garden Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 26,473	Re: Chapped lips help :( You know what helps heal mine the most is raw honey! __________________ ~Catherine~ Mama to 5: C W C J S And Grandma to 3: A ,K and baby C

01-24-2015, 09:07 AM	#9
Chaos Coordinator Rose Garden They need freedom to just be fluffy mashed potatoes and feel their fluffy feelings. Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Up to my earballs in little boys. Posts: 20,259	Re: Chapped lips help :( No I haven't seen an allergist for myself but the one i saw for my son was a complete joke. ---------- Post added at 10:07 AM ---------- Previous post was at 10:06 AM ---------- I had a slice of ds1's cinnamon apples (just apple slices and cinnamon) last night and my chest got tight like it does when I eat bananas. __________________ Joy Progressive Methodist Enfp mama to Sparrow, 10 Zion, 7.5 Baby Gus, 4.5 Preschool teacher. Musician. Timelord. Www.justicemercymayhem.wordpress.com "What you plant in the kingdom will surely grow, and what you grow with love will surely bloom, and the fruit of the spirit will come back to you."

01-24-2015, 12:16 PM	#10
ValiantJoy07 Rose Garden "Take Joy Home, And make a place in thy great heart for her...Joy is the grace we say to God." ~Jean Ingelow~ Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: The Forest Posts: 16,337	Re: Chapped lips help :( Does cinnamon often bother you? Cinnamon bothers my youngest a LOT and we couldn't figure it out. We recently realized we were using the "bad" kind of cinnamon. Well anyway you might have seen this already, http://nursegonenatural.com/what-you...make-you-sick/ Or do you think it was the peel of the apple? I can't handle apple peels. my mouth and lips break out in sores from them and my tongue gets all itchy. I have similar reactions to kiwi and mango but I haven't figured out exactly why...I just avoid them. I am really considering doing a hard core "strict" Paleo Autoimmune protocol for a year. I just don't know if this is the season to do it. I have done it for a few weeks at a time to reboot, but it's hard and would take a big commitment to do it for a long time. __________________ Hannah Joy Intuitive People Loving Introvert Married since '05 to Ryan software and web applications developer. Homeschooling Mama to my 5 Joys... dd1 RJ (12/07), dd2 AJ (08/09), dd3 PJ (01/12), ds1 Ziggy (09/15), ds2 Sunny (05/18) Enjoying a Healing Diet to manage SPD and other health challenges. Sorry for the typos and sloppy grammar I don't have a good excuse anymore.

01-24-2015, 12:59 PM	#11
Chaos Coordinator Rose Garden They need freedom to just be fluffy mashed potatoes and feel their fluffy feelings. Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Up to my earballs in little boys. Posts: 20,259	Re: Chapped lips help :( I was considering aip too although you're right about it needing to be the right season. My oldest ds needs it as well but my mil parades all kinds of junk through the house so it would just be asking for trouble. The apples were peeled. It was definitely cheap "cinnamon" on the apples, but the tazo chai tea was not cheap and should not have contained the fake stuff One of my worst ever break outs involved a staph infection after dh switched to a cinnamon tooth paste, so I def think this link is worth following, I'm just not sure where to head next with it....I might take a few days off and then retry the tea. Or the apple. Either one. My lips feel great today. I applied probiotic powder mixed with almond oil. They feel almost normal. __________________ Joy Progressive Methodist Enfp mama to Sparrow, 10 Zion, 7.5 Baby Gus, 4.5 Preschool teacher. Musician. Timelord. Www.justicemercymayhem.wordpress.com "What you plant in the kingdom will surely grow, and what you grow with love will surely bloom, and the fruit of the spirit will come back to you."

01-26-2015, 12:25 AM	#12
MaySunflowers Deactivated Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: UK Posts: 7,781	Re: Chapped lips help :( Could it be your lips need to be coated before you eat anything, like a barrier? Maybe it is the things touching them more than allergies.

01-26-2015, 06:11 AM	#13
Chaos Coordinator Rose Garden They need freedom to just be fluffy mashed potatoes and feel their fluffy feelings. Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Up to my earballs in little boys. Posts: 20,259	Re: Chapped lips help :( Yesterday was bad again. I've been showing signs of oral allergy syndrome to carrots, spinach, maybe the apple now too. Maybe it's related to that? __________________ Joy Progressive Methodist Enfp mama to Sparrow, 10 Zion, 7.5 Baby Gus, 4.5 Preschool teacher. Musician. Timelord. Www.justicemercymayhem.wordpress.com "What you plant in the kingdom will surely grow, and what you grow with love will surely bloom, and the fruit of the spirit will come back to you."

01-26-2015, 09:29 AM	#14
mamacat Rose Garden Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 26,473	Re: Chapped lips help :( A GSE ointment with glycine healed my sons mouth sores before but he had to keep applying until it was really healed.I think the raw honey helps because it helps heal but also makes that protective barrier on lips __________________ ~Catherine~ Mama to 5: C W C J S And Grandma to 3: A ,K and baby C

02-07-2015, 02:27 PM	#15
KarenBoo Rose Garden Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: central FL Posts: 6,022	Re: Chapped lips help :( I know this thread has gone by the wayside, but I saw an article and it made me remember this thread! Maybe this could be some help to you. http://drkarafitzgerald.com/node/135 __________________ Married to DH for 29 years! Mama to very sweet DD1 "Kitten" 5/03 and our very sweet DD2 "Monkey" 1/08 crunchy, homeschooling, and focused on healing with diet, homeopathy, and QRI cold laser reflex integration

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