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04-06-2011, 06:24 AM | #46 |
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Re: Criminal complaint released in the Lori/Timothy/Andrea Wick abuse scandal
I very, very strongly agree with this! I love the way you worded this. May I share the bolded?
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04-06-2011, 06:36 AM | #47 |
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Re: Criminal complaint released in the Lori/Timothy/Andrea Wick abuse scandal
Me too?
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04-06-2011, 06:45 AM | #48 | |
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Re: Criminal complaint released in the Lori/Timothy/Andrea Wick abuse scandal
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---------- Post added at 06:45 AM ---------- Previous post was at 06:42 AM ---------- I'm considering writing to our local Christian book store and asking them not to carry Lori Wick books anymore. I was speaking with my dad about the store, and he is friendly with the owner. Lately my dad has been reading about pacificism and Christianity. The owner has been showing dad books that he has read that are all anti-corporal punishment (not in kids, in general) that he has read and has enjoyed and dad feels this guy shares his views on the subject. Now that I think about it, the store is really heavy in books that are recommended here. They even carry Sears.
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04-06-2011, 07:04 AM | #49 |
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Re: Criminal complaint released in the Lori/Timothy/Andrea Wick abuse scandal
Reb's blog links to several other news articles on the story that are really illuminating. The initial reports were made by former members who would attend services and noticed the pastor preaching about the "rod" combined with parents removing their children to side rooms and hearing the spankings going on, even the infants.
In one news article the prosecutor is very careful to mention that this is NOT a case of religious freedom, that the Law cannot be broken in the name of God; and I imagine this is why there's such a careful and methodic case being built including the notation of the church's origins and interviewing the former pastor. If these people are going to claim that they are simply being persecuted in the name of their faith, that this other church holds a grudge, or any number of other things the criminal complaint must be clear about who said what and when and why.
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04-06-2011, 07:04 AM | #50 | |
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04-06-2011, 07:04 AM | #51 |
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Re: Criminal complaint released in the Lori/Timothy/Andrea Wick abuse scandal
Adding on: this is a copy of ONE of the complaints that have been issued, there are more out there including other parents (elders?) of this church as well as the pastor and his own wife.
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04-06-2011, 07:05 AM | #52 |
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Re: Criminal complaint released in the Lori/Timothy/Andrea Wick abuse scandal
Heather, do you have links for those? I'll post them too
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04-06-2011, 07:05 AM | #53 |
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Re: Criminal complaint released in the Lori/Timothy/Andrea Wick abuse scandal
@ LoraLee and DoulaClara: Absolutely!
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04-06-2011, 07:07 AM | #54 |
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Re: Criminal complaint released in the Lori/Timothy/Andrea Wick abuse scandal
I wish! I have no clue where or how you found those. Let me do a little searching and see what I can come up with.
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04-06-2011, 07:13 AM | #55 |
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Re: Criminal complaint released in the Lori/Timothy/Andrea Wick abuse scandal
yeah, that was the only one I could find leaked online - I'll dig some more after work today, too.
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04-06-2011, 07:15 AM | #56 |
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Re: Criminal complaint released in the Lori/Timothy/Andrea Wick abuse scandal
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04-06-2011, 07:18 AM | #57 |
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Re: Criminal complaint released in the Lori/Timothy/Andrea Wick abuse scandal
I just called the courthouse - supposedly they will release them to the public upon request. I'll email today
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04-06-2011, 07:18 AM | #58 |
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Re: Criminal complaint released in the Lori/Timothy/Andrea Wick abuse scandal
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04-06-2011, 07:20 AM | #59 | |
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Re: Criminal complaint released in the Lori/Timothy/Andrea Wick abuse scandal
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04-06-2011, 07:22 AM | #60 |
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Re: Criminal complaint released in the Lori/Timothy/Andrea Wick abuse scandal
Not the criminal complaint but you can search the names of the people who have cases pending against them and get the case numbers and basic details for each person (that is where I went first to check). Reb, I'll be interested to see what you find later on.
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