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Old 03-25-2005, 09:37 AM   #6
ArmsOfLove
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Default Re: Proverbs 23:13-14/Q's about the rod

here's my article on the different Hebrew words all translated "rod" in English http://www.aolff.org/wtd.htm and if you cruise around the Spanking Files at my site you will see all of these verses and ideas discussed.

Essentially, the "rod" verses all refer to the "Shebet" which was one of three things: a king's sceptre, the walking stick held by the head of a family (that a guest would look for to know they were talking to the person in authority), and a shepherd's staff. None of these rods were designed for hitting--that was not their intended purpose. And as we learn in the book of Esther (how appropriate as today is Purim ) if the Shebet is withheld it leads to death, if it is extended (not withheld) then it brings life. And let's remember that Solomon, who wrote Proverbs, was a KING! Of all three possibilities for Shebet, he would most likely be referring to the sceptre (he was instructing his son who would someday--hopefully to him--become king). Sceptres were not for hitting.

and another reason this verse can't be taken literally is that you *can* beat a child to death with an implement--or even your hand. You can't guarantee their salvation by doing it, but you might kill them. Since Scripture doesn't lie, it can't be intended to literally mean what we read in the English. But we can learn a lot from the idea actually expressed in the original Hebrew which is that the Word of God and the authority of a parent will raise a child well--as a constant presence in their lives we can keep them on the path and lead them towards right living and salvation.
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