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tempestjewel · 03-23-2010, 07:50 AM

I deal with this too. People who think the relationship aspect of that stuff is just *so* wonderful and joyful, that they look past all the yucky stuff and don't even realize that they are simultaneously destroying relationship

I agree that strength of your relationship does help with discipline, but I find it sad that a lot of these "gurus" so quickly do things to sever the relationship or distort it- confusing love and pain in ways that I find so

and unhealthy.

I really, really dislike the "gleaning" concept when it comes to adversarial/punitive stuff. I think some mama here posted that it's like eating brownies with just a little dog poop. Pardon me, but I prefer just brownies with no poop!

Or, to me, it's like trying to cook a gourmet meal out of stuff in a landfill. Sure, it can likely be done, but you risk contamination and have to ignore an awful lot of, well, garbage! No thanks. I'd rather go somewhere without the potential for poison!

03-23-2010, 07:50 AM	#4
tempestjewel Climbing Rose Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Washington State Posts: 1,362	Re: Tying Heart Strings I deal with this too. People who think the relationship aspect of that stuff is just so wonderful and joyful, that they look past all the yucky stuff and don't even realize that they are simultaneously destroying relationship I agree that strength of your relationship does help with discipline, but I find it sad that a lot of these "gurus" so quickly do things to sever the relationship or distort it- confusing love and pain in ways that I find so and unhealthy. I really, really dislike the "gleaning" concept when it comes to adversarial/punitive stuff. I think some mama here posted that it's like eating brownies with just a little dog poop. Pardon me, but I prefer just brownies with no poop! Or, to me, it's like trying to cook a gourmet meal out of stuff in a landfill. Sure, it can likely be done, but you risk contamination and have to ignore an awful lot of, well, garbage! No thanks. I'd rather go somewhere without the potential for poison! __________________ Naomi, INFJ, married to my carpenter DH, and mama to DC (19), DD (16), DS (13), DD (9), and DD (7). Plus three kitties, Mango, Mochi, and Lola.

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