[katiekind]

The DA, at the end of the article Wonder Woman linked, talks about even the No Greater Joy people pointing out that there is a line that shouldn't be crossed....

Ramsey is quick to point out that followers of No Greater Joy do not advocate spanking to the point of serious injury.

"Even the Tennessee pastor that espouse hitting children right from infancy says that you must watch that you don't cross the line. Clearly this is a situation where the line was crossed from discipline... to beating... to murder," said Ramsey.
http://www.khsltv.com/content/localn...b2Dx8U_gA.cspx

"Crossing the line" is clearly very subjective.

Harder thinking needs to be done than platitudes like "you have to watch that you don't cross the line". What do you say about lines defined by a guy whose starting point is weird and crazy to begin with? His followers might not be well-equipped to notice where normal parents would draw the line.

In the situation with these girls, one girl died from heart failure and the other girl suffered kidney failure caused by the chemical breakdown of her muscle tissue -- at least that's what one of the articles said. (I am horrified and shuddering at being so specific. I am sorry, mommas.)

How would a spanking parent know where those lines are?

This is all so grotesque, so inverted from the way of Jesus.