[Johns_Gal]

Originally Posted by bolt.

That's absolutely true.

The other simple fact is that if you did to an adult what is done to children in the name of spanking (if it could be done)... you would find it to be a very useful tool in enforcing behavioural control over adults too.

I would sure keep my house more clean if someone was going to come and hit me if they were unsatisfied. With adults, it's obvious that such a set-up it wouldn't be part of a loving healthy relationship. Why isn't it just as obvious about children?

Ugh, YES. I get irked at women who are pro-spanking... I tend to ask them if they did the lunch dishes yet, and they better hurry before their husband comes home and slaps them around for it.

There will *not* be violence in my home, I won't have it.

My husband was not raised well. Neither was I, but while his was just permissive parenting, mine was abusive. One sure way to have me ready to fight is to threaten my kid with pain.

The day DH scared DS, I think he figured that out. He tried to say I was "interfering" in his parenting and I shot back a bit of "THAT was not parenting, THAT was bullying and just plain laziness." And I proceeded to get up on the couch so I could be bigger than him and look mean while I told him to clean up. Not the most cool headed plan but holy cow, the light that dawned in his eyes. Seeing him apologize to our little boy mollified the beast.