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Old 01-12-2012, 06:41 AM   #33
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Default Re: "Under Loving Command"

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Originally Posted by CelticJourney View Post
While in essence I possibly agree with you - it's semantics - but in realiaty words have meaning beyond their dictionary foundation. Within this community, the word 'train' has baggage placed on it by Pearl, Ezzo and their ike to mean things that teach don't. I could see where the situation might have been reversed - if the puniitive oppressors of children had taken a 'I'll teach them to ever hesitate to obey with a thick rod' - but they didn't. If you were to say here at GCM or in the mainstream Christian world beyond: 'I train my child to do x' then there is a socially tied connotation to that word choice that says 'I train my child to do x, and I punish him if he does not'. What we mean and what is culturally understood are not always the same.

The closest comparison I have is the word 'comrad'. In essence it means friend, companion. Socially, it's tied to communism and oppression.
I completely agree with you. I don't use train in the child rearing sense because it has been warped into something that it is not. Not unlike discipline which is another word I don't like to use for the same reason. (But that could just be my baggage). Just as I taught Ivy to trust me, I could also say that Ivy has been disciplined to trust me. But that makes me feel sick just typing it. I threw out the train/teach words to high light how it has been twisted. I hope that intent was clear and not taken to mean that I was defending them somehow.
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