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Old 07-23-2010, 09:00 AM   #6
ArmsOfLove
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Default Re: Is Spanking Biblical?

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I am curious, though, in what way does the OT apply to the believer? I am sure that you don't mean we should sacrifice animals or that we should be careful not to mix different types of cloth when we dress or that we should stone rebellious sons. There is no sarcasm here, I am honestly curious as to what you mean when you see the OT applies? I very much respect your opinion, even if we do not fully agree doctrinally...
No sarcasm heard

What is understood to be the "curse of the Law" is the whole sacrificial system as it pertains to guilt and sin offerings and they were all a picture of Jesus and he accomplished "atonement" (which was their temporary purpose) at the cross That has been done away with

There were two other trips up Mt Sinai that Moses made

Because we do not live in Israel and are not governed by the government God established for Israel we cannot expect to have the trials and the penalties for things the way He established them for those who are living in the Land of Israel. And when you study how the Israelites understood them and the way Moses implemented them they are really not harsh--plus the way they are interpreted in the Hebrew Scriptures versus the generic modern OT translations they read much different and the Hebrew doesn't read as harsh What was required to actually receive a death penalty from the court of 70 elders conducting the trial was INTENSE! and very rarely occurred

BUT if we stop thinking about the penalties--which weren't the point of what was being established at all!--we find that the OT Law teaches the people of God how to live in community with one another. It's really quite full of how to be a holy people. I'm posting a study in pieces about what we, as believers, can learn and live by from the Torah. I've got the first two articles posted so I'll share them with you

This is about the 10 Commandments and the details around their giving.
http://hearunderstandobey.com/moses-...-mt-sinai.html

This is the article on the Civil Law http://hearunderstandobey.com/moses-...civil-law.html

They are long but I'd love your thoughts after you read them

Whether any of us ultimately agree with one another or not, the meaning of the verses in question are distorted and being used to "prove" and "justify" a very modern practice. A literal reading would involve "beating an adolescent with a large stick" and I don't hear anyone arguing for that Even the ancient rabbis who argue for a more literal reading in their writings about Scripture do not advocate that--they were caught in a bind with the fact that it was illegal to strike a Jewish man over bar mitzvah age without authority from a court of law.
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