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Originally Posted by BetsyPage

I'm just stretching here, but would it have even been possible to create beings with free wills as we have and not allow them to be exposed to choices?

Right if there were no option to choose to fall into temptation and to eat the fruit then there would be no challanger of the "free will" to choose to follow God and therefore would it really exist?

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