[purple_kangaroo]

Originally Posted by purple_kangaroo

I think the difficulty we may be having in communication is that you might be referring to patriarchy in a more general sense as a mindset that sees men as having some level of headship over women (at least in the specific settings of church/spiritual leadership and marriage), while I am referring to The Patriarchy Movement as a certain extreme subset of the more general mindset many might refer to as patriarchy--with specific doctrinal teachings requiring more absolute authority and total submission tied with things like no birth control, women not having jobs outside the home or operating as equals with men in any sphere, children being seen as belonging to and an extension of their father, etc.

BJU would probably fit into the former, wider definition, but not the latter more specific/narrower definition. That's why I do not believe they should be included in a list of people that support Vision Forum or agree with their beliefs.

Just requoting this because I'm not sure if it got lost in the shuffle or not.