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Katherine 04-01-2008 08:49 AM

The official Cal Mag thread
 
ok.. I was *very* surprised that there's not a sticky that just screams CALLLLL MAGGGGG! :giggle

But since there's not.... (and please redirect me if I missed it) can everyone sort of chip in to this one? Links are fine. One word answers are fine. Whatever you want to say. :smile

Cal Mag is mentioned in every fifth thread here.. on every forum. :giggle i'm still snitching kids Calcium gummy bears :O but probably need to move on to something more.. ahem.. mature.

So..
1) What's the best brand?
2) Any features to look for or avoid (I've seen mention of carbonate free.. ?) ?
3) Typical dosing for adults and children?
4) What issues are caused by Cal/Mag deficiency... or what issues are generally helped by Cal/Mag?
5) Any side effects or cautions? (I saw the thread about sleepiness... SEE! As many times as I've heard CalMag praised, I never knew *that* about it... :doh )

Give me the scoop guys! I've googled this a bit, but I always find out stuff here that Google doesn't turn up. ;)

Raspberries 04-01-2008 08:52 AM

Re: The official Cal Mag thread
 
I think there might be one in the Cradled forum FAQ. I don't remember. I mean, I know there is one, just not where exactly.

hey mommy 04-01-2008 08:53 AM

Re: The official Cal Mag thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Raspberries
I think there might be one in the Cradled forum FAQ. I don't remember. I mean, I know there is one, just not where exactly.

Well that doesn't help those of us who never go there.. I think it should be here too.

cobluegirl 04-01-2008 08:58 AM

Re: The official Cal Mag thread
 
hmm...good idea...

LadybugSam 04-01-2008 08:59 AM

Re: The official Cal Mag thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by hey mommy
Quote:

Originally Posted by Raspberries
I think there might be one in the Cradled forum FAQ. I don't remember. I mean, I know there is one, just not where exactly.

Well that doesn't help those of us who never go there.. I think it should be here too.

cal/mag is good for people who are not pregnant as well :yes

HomeWithMyBabies 04-01-2008 09:11 AM

Re: The official Cal Mag thread
 
I sort of hop around brand wise so I'll be curious to see what people like. For the boys we give Peter Gillham's Natural calm stuff, they have baby and kid ones, too.

Quote:

What issues are caused by Cal/Mag deficiency... or what issues are generally helped by Cal/Mag?
I can say for sure my migraines are less frequent and less severe. I noticed it a few months into taking the mag, and then happened to read the bottle where it said migraines could be a sign of a deficiency. I sleep better, too.

Raspberries 04-01-2008 09:23 AM

Re: The official Cal Mag thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by hey mommy
Quote:

Originally Posted by Raspberries
I think there might be one in the Cradled forum FAQ. I don't remember. I mean, I know there is one, just not where exactly.

Well that doesn't help those of us who never go there.. I think it should be here too.

I agree. Hope I didn't come off as bad or anything. I was just saying that there was something out there somewhere, just wasn't sure where (:lol I know so helpful)

hey mommy 04-01-2008 09:34 AM

Re: The official Cal Mag thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Raspberries
Quote:

Originally Posted by hey mommy
Quote:

Originally Posted by Raspberries
I think there might be one in the Cradled forum FAQ. I don't remember. I mean, I know there is one, just not where exactly.

Well that doesn't help those of us who never go there.. I think it should be here too.

I agree. Hope I didn't come off as bad or anything. I was just saying that there was something out there somewhere, just wasn't sure where (:lol I know so helpful)

no, you didn't come off as bad or anything. I was just trying to remind people that some of us don't visit the cradled board and having it as a sticky here too would be a good idea. :)

klpmommy 04-01-2008 09:51 AM

Re: The official Cal Mag thread
 
it has helped my restless leg syndrome & solved some, ahem, bowel issues.

I think a sticky here is a good idea, it is kind of "hidden" in cradled & I know a lot of ladies don't go there.

LadybugSam 04-01-2008 09:53 AM

Re: The official Cal Mag thread
 
I know that when i take my cal mag i sleep better, i'm more regular, and i don't have leg cramps :tu

I got the trader joe calcium citrate/vit D and then i take the magnesium with it. I take it right before bed.

Calcium citrate is the most readily absorbed calcium, from what i read..

where IS Allison? :P

ShiriChayim 04-01-2008 10:47 AM

Re: The official Cal Mag thread
 
:popcorn

hey mommy 04-01-2008 10:53 AM

Re: The official Cal Mag thread
 
I take the Natural Calm at night when I remember... I need to remember more often though.. It does help me a lot.

HEmomma 04-01-2008 10:54 AM

Re: The official Cal Mag thread
 
I have some.. but I always forget to take it. :blush Maybe I should add a line to my siggy... :giggle

Calliope 04-01-2008 10:57 AM

Re: The official Cal Mag thread
 
So is Natural Calm good? I almost got some but the $20 a container thing stopped me. :shrug

Gentle Journey 04-01-2008 11:00 AM

Re: The official Cal Mag thread
 
:popcorn

I'm intrested in dosing for kids, adults and pregnancy

Katherine 04-01-2008 02:26 PM

Re: The official Cal Mag thread
 
Migraines!!! I should have done this a month ago.

Just came off 2 weeks of horrible daily cluster headaches. :doh

ok.... What other fabulous secrets lie in the minds of you cal-mag people? :giggle

off to check Cradled... (thank you! I never would have thought to look there!)

UPDATE: found this one right away in FAQ ... http://www.gentlechristianmothers.co...?topic=93035.0

feel free to link if you guys find other threads. :yes

Katherine 04-01-2008 03:03 PM

Re: The official Cal Mag thread
 
ok, I'm looking at this liquid form:

http://www.vitacost.com/NSI-Liquid-C...ngredientFacts

which provides 500 mg Cal and 230 mg Mag

To get Allison's recommended dose of 1200/400... :scratch well, doubling the serving would give me 1000/460... ?? :think and then I'd be over on Mag and under on Cal

and also at this pill form:

http://www.rainbowlight.com/Categori...a-649a02ce93c5

and here's one more...

http://www.bluebonnetnutrition.com/m...n_citrate.html

a liquid with 1000/400

which is similar ... 500/250 and I'd have to take 2 (presumably huge) pills :giggle, which is not a big problem for me, but I know it is for some.

So... how important is that 3:1 ratio?? Would I need to make a point of getting that extra Calcium supplement?

Also gathered from comments on the other thread that it might be wise to start with a lower dose and gradually ease into the higher amounts, since the Mag can act as a laxative or stool softener--especially if your body is not used to it. :think

klpmommy 04-01-2008 03:17 PM

Re: The official Cal Mag thread
 
i take separate cal & mag for that reason, i couldn't find the right ratio & citrate

LadybugSam 04-01-2008 05:00 PM

Re: The official Cal Mag thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by klpmommy
i take separate cal & mag for that reason, i couldn't find the right ratio & citrate

:yes

bananacake 04-01-2008 05:19 PM

Re: The official Cal Mag thread
 
:cup :cookie

Praise 04-01-2008 05:28 PM

Re: The official Cal Mag thread
 
:popcorn

Katherine 04-02-2008 09:53 AM

Re: The official Cal Mag thread
 
ok.. another question...

http://www.supplementsolutions.com/calmag.htm

I'm looking at this dissovable form, and it talks about how the more chalky liquids are actually undissolved calcium, which is harder for your body to absorb.

Quote:

It is our belief that it does not matter which form of calcium you are taking or which form is most absorbable. The fact is that you need the calcium predissolved, ionized and elemental to be absorbed. Our Cal-Mag Fizz is all of these once it has "FIZZED" and is a clear liquid.
Thoughts? It actually makes sense to me in a lot of ways. I :think

TuneMyHeart 04-02-2008 10:01 AM

Re: The official Cal Mag thread
 
I take Natural Calm (my naturopath recommended this brand). He said the powder is much more absorbable than a pill. I double the dose because it helps my crampy legs at night. http://www.vitacost.com/Peter-Gillha...m-Plus-Calcium

It's pricey, but even doubling the dose, a bottle lasts me about 3 months. I don't think I'll ever try another brand because this one works so well.

GodChick 04-02-2008 10:05 AM

Re: The official Cal Mag thread
 
It has helped my drepresssion. :tu

arwen 04-02-2008 10:16 AM

Re: The official Cal Mag thread
 
:popcorn

Myrtle 04-02-2008 10:40 AM

Re: The official Cal Mag thread
 
:popcorn

Katherine 04-02-2008 11:40 AM

Re: The official Cal Mag thread
 
Quote:

It has helped my drepresssion.
:rockon That's awesome. Earlier today, I was actually looking up the relation between depression/bipolar and Cal/Mag levels. VERY interesting!

This, for example:

http://george-eby-research.com/html/...depression.pdf

"Rapid Recovery From Major Depression Using Magnesium Treatment"


Victorious 04-02-2008 01:01 PM

Re: The official Cal Mag thread
 
:popcorn

brandi 04-02-2008 01:26 PM

Re: The official Cal Mag thread
 
Um, what is it? :O :shifty

Tuesdayschild 04-02-2008 01:30 PM

Re: The official Cal Mag thread
 
http://www.gentlechristianmothers.co...topic=166885.0

Various brands suggested in this thread too

Gentle Journey 04-02-2008 07:35 PM

Re: The official Cal Mag thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ElliesMom
I take Natural Calm (my naturopath recommended this brand). He said the powder is much more absorbable than a pill. I double the dose because it helps my crampy legs at night. http://www.vitacost.com/Peter-Gillha...m-Plus-Calcium

It's pricey, but even doubling the dose, a bottle lasts me about 3 months. I don't think I'll ever try another brand because this one works so well.

It says there's only 8 servings per container?

TuneMyHeart 04-03-2008 06:51 AM

Re: The official Cal Mag thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gentle Journey
Quote:

Originally Posted by ElliesMom
I take Natural Calm (my naturopath recommended this brand). He said the powder is much more absorbable than a pill. I double the dose because it helps my crampy legs at night. http://www.vitacost.com/Peter-Gillha...m-Plus-Calcium

It's pricey, but even doubling the dose, a bottle lasts me about 3 months. I don't think I'll ever try another brand because this one works so well.

It says there's only 8 servings per container?

I buy a 16 oz. bottle for about $20. It lasts me quite a while. :shrug It says a serving is 4 teaspoons. I take an overflowing tablespoon, so I'm doubling what I used to take, not what the bottle says to take. Sorry about the confusion. :blush

schmamy 04-03-2008 08:46 AM

Re: The official Cal Mag thread
 
yeah, how important is the 3:1 ratio? I'm taking more like a 2:1 ratio...my magnesium comes in 250mg pills, which makes it hard to get 300...and my calcium comes in 300ish mg pills, which means taking four horse pills just to get to 1200. :/

And why, oh why, is magnesium so awful to swallow? I was taking Nature Made and thought it was just the brand--these flat, round tablets that would ALWAYS get stuck in my throat :sick So I switched brands to something I found at Target...they're caplet shaped, so that's better, but they still start to dissolve in my mouth/throat :sick It's like they're missing a coating that other vitamins have. Why is that??

allisonintx 04-03-2008 08:57 AM

Re: The official Cal Mag thread
 
3:1 ratio is minimum
2:1 and even 1:1 have all been studied, and shown to be at least as good as 3:1 if not better for some conditions (1:1 is best for those coping w/ hypertension, but can give digestive problems from so much magnesium)

bananacake 04-03-2008 09:00 AM

Re: The official Cal Mag thread
 
Cal/Mag was mentioned on the Today show today, but I only saw the end of it.

bananacake 04-03-2008 09:00 AM

Re: The official Cal Mag thread
 
Here it is:

http://www. msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/23936737#23936737

GrowingInGrace 04-03-2008 09:12 AM

Re: The official Cal Mag thread
 
Does cal/mag end up making you a little tired during the day? I don't know if it's because we are coming off a week of spring break, or the fact that I just started taking cal/mag again (a 2:1 ratio). I'm just so much more sluggish during the days this week.


Katherine 04-03-2008 10:47 AM

Re: The official Cal Mag thread
 
RE: ratios... One case study in the thread I linked to was a man sensitive to calcium and severly depressed, who actually needed to cut way back on his calcium and take substantial amounts of Magnesium in order to stabilize. Kefir was added after a point, with good results.


allisonintx 04-03-2008 01:13 PM

Re: The official Cal Mag thread
 
cal mag should be taken at NIGHT. It acts as a sedative and relaxes muscles. Perfect for the end of the day, not so great in the morning.

GrowingInGrace 04-03-2008 03:15 PM

Re: The official Cal Mag thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Allison In TX
cal mag should be taken at NIGHT. It acts as a sedative and relaxes muscles. Perfect for the end of the day, not so great in the morning.

This is what worries me, I think I've only been taking later in the evening. I'm very fatigued for the past 2 days. I'm on the end of my AF, so that might have something to do with it. I don't know. I just feel like a slug bug and have no desire to do anything. I've had my second cup of coffee and I just feel blah. I have a meeting to go to tonight, and I just want to take a nap instead.


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