Parasite cleanse--especially for children
 

I've never really looked into this before but I am seriously considering it. Gracie has been a fingernail biter for several years now. Plus, she's having a few GI issues right now that *might* mean a parasite (or it just might be bug, or too much sugar--she just had a birthday).

Anyway, if you've ever given your kids a parasite cleanse, what did you do?

Also, is it safe for a BFing mom to do a parasite cleanse? I"m guessing no.

***ETA CAUTION***

For anyone researching parasites, please be cautioned NOT TO SEARCH THE INTERNET FOR PICTURES/IMAGES OF PARASITES without being prepared for what you will likely see. Many parasites are not microscopic, some can be very large. I found some very graphic and disturbing photos that I wish I hadn't seen.

Re: Parasite cleanse--especially for children
 

:popcorn

Re: Parasite cleanse--especially for children
 

:popcorn

you start the coolest threads evahhhh

Re: Parasite cleanse--especially for children
 

I just posted about paranix jr. on a different thread today ;)
I use paranix junior this about annually for all the kids at tax time - S hasn't ever gotten it yet is as it's not recommended for under 3 yo ;) I did it every 3 months for L when he was on chemo :yes because it's also has great cleansers in there :) It's GREAT stuff - they start to poop like crazy too
It's on this page http://www.allnaturalcleanse.com/add...lproducts.html

I was pondering ONLY doing S because L and A are on essiac and it's antiparasitical but then I remembered that they all take aloe vera juice cleanse :think so now I don't think I will do it at all - haven't decided yet.

I don't believe that an herbal parasite cleanse is safe for bfing moms but I am pretty sure aloe vera juice is safe for bfing moms :D I am not positive about it though This site http://www.aloelife.com/AloeVeraPages/AloeSafety.html talks about how most people think children and pregnant people shouldn't use it and that is false. The concern is diarrhea and possible dehydration in the infant. I have used it while bfing but S was the one bfing and she has chronic constipation so I was unconcerned.

Re: Parasite cleanse--especially for children
 

I recommend Black Walnut. A friend of mine lived in China for several years and suspected that she picked up a parasite there. She used the black walnut, and it seemed to clear things up.

This site, http://drclarkstore.com/black-walnut...ength-2oz.html, has suggested doses and more information.

ETA: I don't know anything about the website, I was just searching for information on giving black walnut to kids.

Re: Parasite cleanse--especially for children
 

:ty I will read more when I have time.

why, thank you! :giggle Is evahhh a Wall-E quote? Gracie just lost her EVE toy and is heartbroken.

Re: Parasite cleanse--especially for children
 

black walnut is in paranix junior :yes It's a great antiparasitical :yes

Re: Parasite cleanse--especially for children
 

I have given mine black walnut and oregano oil. the combo works great. You just rub oregano oil in olive oil and rub on the bottom of her feet and then giver black walnut with applesauce. No Parasite can take that combo. :P~

Re: Parasite cleanse--especially for children
 

Our whole family used black walnut this summer. I put it oj and the kids got a treat after they finished it (a vit. c :giggle) I"m not sure if they truly needed it but I was feeling paranoid after living in hawaii for almost 4 years. We did it for 10 days and I got the tincture from our ND in hawaii. It does taste AWFUL though.

Re: Parasite cleanse--especially for children
 

I have oregano oil already . . . so I can mix it w/ olive oil and rub it on their feet? What's the ratio?

Re: Parasite cleanse--especially for children
 

Just two or three drops :yes (not dropper full :no) to one tsp olive oil. Thats what I have done for all my kids. We did this last year and she was 3 then. That should give you an idea. For a baby or toddler she said one drop is enough with a tsp. We had a 1 year old last year too. ;) Now this is what was recommended for us. Remember not to go more then 2 weeks with Oregano Oil as its pretty strong stuff. Hope that helps you out. :)

Re: Parasite cleanse--especially for children
 

Thank you, that is a big help!

So, use it daily for 2 weeks? I know oregano oil is strong--my DH took 2-3 drops in a glass of water for a cough once--he said it burned all the way down.

Re: Parasite cleanse--especially for children
 

:yes :yes :yes It even kills Geardia (not sure spelling) :yes I just :heart it.

Re: Parasite cleanse--especially for children
 

I like the Trilight Herbs product called Worm Out. It tastes good, works fast and isn't terribly expensive, relative to other parasite killers.

Re: Parasite cleanse--especially for children
 

Oregano wont burn if you add it to lots of honey  :)
And you can use it topically while nursing as well as taking a supplement like oregaresp. I take that and i am nursing. I also take bentonite clay (theres a sticky here that i shamelessly gush on and on about it but i first really started taking it because i was pregnant and the family had parasites  :sick)

You really should first try and figure out if it really is a parasite and what type exactly it is before you start giving things. You dont want to give something that for a particular parasite it will only kill the adults and not the eggs or vise versa. because then you see a difference but it will either return or return in a different way with a vengence. Like eczema. you dont keep covering it with emollients or you could just wind up eczema free but with asthma. kwim?

ETA: or you could all just go crazy with green papaya! supplements if they wont eat it. papaya is something that is wonderful for nursing moms as well as those that arent as far as breast health.
If you do give a herbal remedy be sure it has three things. wormood, cloves, and green hull walnut.
Even better is if you can also match any symptoms with a homeopathic remedy at the same time. and adjust the homeopathic remedy accordingly if you see symptoms change.

Parasites are notorious hiders and have had centuries to evolve. They arent always easy to completely get them entirely out, especially if there are gi issues. they might actually be causing some or all of the gi issues.
Personally, i would work on healing her gi issues so her body can rid them naturally and at its own pace. they cause damage internally that needs to be healed when there are gi issues existing. figuring out why she is having gi problems is probably gonna be the key for you in completely getting rid of any problems. including the nail biting believe it or not.
if she has a healthy gut and you have a diet that aids this like lots of onions, garlic, oregano, citrus, cloves, healthy fats, etc.. then she can come in contact with a gazillion parasites and they will pass right through. because thats what normally happens to everyone. parasites are nasty buggers but they are natures clean up crew that can sometimes go wrong  :sick
which ever path you choose with this just be careful which you choose because you wouldnt want to give something that might end up making things worse. Like choosing an herb that kills the adult but not the eggs and the parasite in particular happens to be one that releases eggs when it dies. then things might appear better for a time but will come back with a vengeance once those eggs mature. or there are some parasites that you want to actually take an herb to stun them along with something to quickly pass them so it will be passed before it has time to lodge its head in and only pass the tail end of itself. :sick i know, but something i think should be said. you dont want to mess around with this sort of stuff when it is a child with gi problems  :hugheart  :pray4  :heart

Re: Parasite cleanse--especially for children
 

I took oregano as my anti-microbial of choice while nursing because I couldn't do garlic. I like it a lot.

Re: Parasite cleanse--especially for children
 

ooh I need to do this...

where is the best place to get the Trilight stuff?

Re: Parasite cleanse--especially for children
 

Okay, I really want to know more. So how do you find out what kind of parasite your child might have? I have 2 children with GI issues and dh and I do too. And we all eat and eat and never gain weight. I am now for the first time in my life, but only because I am having thyroid issues. The amount of food we eat is just incredible. And we have to eat perfectly to stay healthy. We all have allergies and health issues. Lately I have been wondering about parasites, but I want to know more. What are the symptoms and where can I go for help? I am so :sick by the whole thing, but if this is our issue, our lives would drastically change!

Re: Parasite cleanse--especially for children
 

is that one safe for breast feeding it has wormwood ?

do you have to rub in the olive oil.. in the past i just did oregano oil, i must have missed hearing to add it to olive oil first. :( i wonder now if it did anything. we were mostly trying to get yeast gone.. but i nkow its anti parasite too.. i have gottern the bigger boys to drink it in OJ, but ds3 and dd i still just put in on there feet.. i guess in the future ill add it to olive oil first..

Re: Parasite cleanse--especially for children
 

:cup I want to know too.

Re: Parasite cleanse--especially for children
 

Im not a professional in this area only an expert by unwanted experience :giggle
what you mentioned are symptoms but then they could be symptoms for other things, like just a slow bowel for example.
Odds are, if you dont intentionally add foods to your diet or do regular parasite cleanses you have parasites. If you arent having a movement atleast 1-2 times a day(preferably after every meal) then you have parasites. If you have all the above and dont wake up in the morning refreshed and rested before the alarm on your own, you have parasites.
If you have yeast, you have parasites. If you have the above and your ears itch every now and then but regularly, you have parasites. If your jaw hurts or you grinde your teeth and the above, you have parasites. I could just go on and on and on.

A great way to tell though is to eat a meal that will irritate them.
Tell me a meal you like or what kind of food (mexican, asian, american) and i could suggest a meal with ingredients that will let you know.
Keep a journal for 2 full moons (you can google and check this with a farmers almanac) and see if there are patterns with how you feel, sleep, bowel movements, thats also a good way.

babies awake bbl with a cdc link to types of worms and some more.

Re: Parasite cleanse--especially for children
 

:cup

Re: Parasite cleanse--especially for children
 

:scratch We eat mexican food all the time and I even eat roasted whole jalapeno's. :scratch What do you mean by irritate them? Sorry just kinda stumped me on this question.

Re: Parasite cleanse--especially for children
 

I'd be interested. We eat a lot of Mexican/Latin and Asian meals.

After you eat the ingredients, what do you look out for?

I've never really considered the possibility of parasites but, after some preliminary googling, I certainly have a lot of signs that could point to parasites.

Re: Parasite cleanse--especially for children
 

I'm interested too. We eat a little of everything...american, italian, mexican, etc.

And what do you look for after you've eaten "the ingredients."

Re: Parasite cleanse--especially for children
 

:popcorn

I have one child who is a nailbiter...?????

Re: Parasite cleanse--especially for children
 

We all grind our teeth. I am so bad that I wear a splint every night. I could go on and on about all our "issues" I guess. I am convinced that we, for some reason, don't absorb the nutrients in our food though and I wonder if it is some kind of parasite. I can get Renew Life products from our co-op which are supposed to be good cleanses and are designed for kids. But DD is pretty sick. She vomits a lot and is in a lot of pain. They diagnosed her with abdominal migraines, but I think that is an "I-don't-know" diagnosis. I am looking for things to help us all, but I certainly don't want to try anything that will make us worse! :/

I'll eat anything, but my kids are another story. They aren't into spicy foods. :shrug

Re: Parasite cleanse--especially for children
 

eating roasted whole jalapenos isnt really something that will irritate a parasite. maybe you but not a parasite  :giggle Im kidding, those are one of my favorite things to eat. I even eat whole fresh jalapenos with my sanwiches. kind of like having a cruncy pickle, except
with a kick.

Leah-you could go to a dr but unfortunatley they will throw meds at you. And if you have some that arent flushed out with natural things, the meds will kick some out but not all. And again, you might end up with them even more resistant.
If you were gonna seek help for it id go with someone that knows the symptoms and how to treat for them naturally, with healing the gut as key.
If you do it on your own. you can take a remedy and see. im pretty sure though, with allergies and all the other things you mentioned, things my family had, its gonna take more than a one time remedy. and if you had the symptoms previous to your thyroid. that might be caused by them as well. remember, they take your nutrients first and can move/live thtoughout the body, they might be causing that issue for you. might might not but wouldnt that be an easier fix to try.



i know you didnt ask me but i had just done some digging about wormwood. there are different types of wormwood, some extremely mild and others you have to be more careful about.

Lets take mexican.
Tacos with beans/rice. chips and salsa/queso. Fruit salad for dessert. Use sea salt if possible but not necessary. Pretty inexpensive and easy meal.
Ingredients:
1.Beans (boiled with lots of crushed fresh garlic and lots of fresh onion. throw in some flax seed if you have it but not necessary)
2.Rice (again lots of fresh garlic and onion)
3.Salsa (you can make from scratch or you can buy a jar of salsa. Add lots of fresh onion, lime, and cilantro)
4. Queso (take some of the onion above and get some of the juice out of it and add it to the cheese. I just cut up velveeta, add a bit of water, tiny pieces of cilantro, and add as much of the onion juice as you can, couple drops for kids, 3 or 4 for adults, atleast that much of onion juice. I give that to the kids with chips. but i add jalapenos, tomato, and jalapenos for the adults.
5. You can make bean tacos if you dont eat meat or you can make whatever filling youre use to.
(toppings for the tacos-avacado(plain/salted is fine but if you can make it quacamole thats better)
6. Fruit salad-mix together the following
(be sure it is fresh!)
Watermellon
Pineapple
Papaya (most important one, save the seeds and dry them in the shade)
Coconut
Cantalope(for added sweetness but not necessary)

Some papaya info i ran across http:  //www.ayushveda.com/dietfitness/roundworms-and-papaya/


Another meal idea thats super inexpensive:
Ramen noodle soup or any noodles(even fettucine noodles, but without the ramen soup mix you have to season and add broth if you want soup)
carrots
onion
garlic
oregano oil or oregano capsules or oregaresp supplement capsules(i like oregaresp in lots of foods and my kids do too surprisingly, as long as i dont get heavy handed with it, about 1 capsule opened into 3 packs of soup)
  You can add the above into the noodles like a soup or you can boil the noodles, then fry it with the rest in a pan like pan fried noodles.
(we dont use soy but soy sauce added to the fried noodles would taste good)

If you can make something like a coconut yogurt smoothie to go with it even better.

Or even making gingerbread with fresh cloves and ginger. some molasses and/or flax seed (if possible but not necessary) as a dessert with any meal.


I know a lot of the above just sounds like food but almost every ingredient will bother atleast one type of parasite if fresh and in a large enough amount. Depending on the life cycle of the bug and if they are underneath folds inside or not will determine what it does. Like the link mentioned above you can eat a meal with things like:
onion
garlic
carrots
papaya
pineapple
avacado
oregano
cloves
(basil if youre doing italian)
and just wait and see or you can take something like castor oil later on. Either way, what you look for is just how you feel. Any stomach pains, pains that feel like menstrual cramping, gas, itching, headaches, diareah, stomach bloating, burning when you urinate, body odor other than from the garlic  :giggle, things like that.
When you do go, you look for white strings or white flecks. lots of tiny black flecks in the water, or cloudy fluffy stuff, to name a few. curezone is site that has actual pics that you can compare things to. Gross but very helpful.

If you can eat these things when they are in their cycle and already dislodged, it will be easiest to pass them. Try to eat the things above atleast once a day. aim for doing this starting about a week before a full moon, and through about a week after.

Dd is squirming gotta go but heres the cdc site (i dont put much stock in a lot of the info or lack of info that they have but its a list of all the kinds/types) and there is so much parasite info out there a google will probably leave you with more than what you ever wanted to know.

http:  //www.dpd.cdc.gov/dpdx/HTML/Para_Health.htm

my ds use to grinde really bad. now when he does i just up the foods above and it goes away  :shrug
I know I use to not absorb nutrients well because now that i am mindful and purposely adding foods i dont need near as much sleep. and all the things that come with not being able to absorb bvit in the area of the intestine have now gone. I always wonder if it was from built up plaque or from parasites  :sick
Here are some things that helped us that you could add to what you mentioned:
probiotics (for some reason yo+ works better than anything we have tried, even expensive probiotics, with dairy, without dairy, no grass, with grass, you name it we tried it. If i could i would make our own 24 hour yogurt though. I got this idea from here:
http://www.pecanbread.com/
The above diet is actually pretty close to what I did on my own to begin healing my kids' guts. They all had their own set of symptoms along with undiagnosed asd, sensory issues, horrible allergies, muscle pains, you name it.
For my dd who doesnt like spicy I have to get creative. Garlic for example. I can put it in broccoli with lots of velveeta and she cant taste it. She cant taste it either when i add it to the beans and rice. And the onion juice, that hides well in velveeta. I know that isnt the healthiest thing but hey it gets the job done. I would rather do that than have to spend a fortune on only organic, only natural sugar, only this, only that, allergy friendly. :shifty
Soooo  :think garlic, onion, hidden. Oh, she likes cloves in certain things. Like chocolate hides cloves well. I make them gingerbread and put a scoop of homemade chocolate coconut ice cream on it and let it sit on top a bit so it sort of melts a little into it.  :think and the ramen soup, she will eat that. I throw the whole onion in and only smash (not mince) the garlic clove. That way I can scoop them out and they never know. raw carrots she eats fine. but i guess if she didnt like them i would put them in the spagetti. She eats papaya well too. If not, when you mix ripe papaya with cantaloupe it sort of makes it taste like cantaloupe. And if you mix the fruit with some yogurt then you really cant tell.
:tired theres tons more but im kind of tired and i think i might be starting a book  :O sorry  :giggle
oh! one more thing. Only spring water for your dd is what i would suggest. No no no tap water!

Re: Parasite cleanse--especially for children
 

Thanks for all the information. We drink raw milk and I make yogurt. I was making kefir but it bothers DD for some reason. I have done so much with our diet over the years-no gluten, few grains, no processed sugar, limiting all sugar, healthy fats, grass fed meat and cheese... I wish wish wish that I could find a good naturopathic doctor around here. I have been looking all over the state. I have tried so many millions of things and spent so much money. I feel like I am grasping at straws sometimes and sometimes like things are coming together. My kids have attention issues, behavioral issues, and sensory issues, along with allergies, reoccurring yeast infections, asthma, GI issues, etc. I'm sure it is all somehow related. And doctors sure don't have a clue. All they do is hand me medication. I do think much of this is gut related, but probiotics, diet changes, fish oil, etc. haven't healed us. They have helped a lot, but there are pieces to the puzzle that I am missing. :/ :(

Re: Parasite cleanse--especially for children
 

:hugheart :yes2 uuuhhh how i hear you :(

Re: Parasite cleanse--especially for children
 

We eat fresh onions and fresh garlic in almost every meal. My kids eat flax in their bread and muffins too. :rockon

Re: Parasite cleanse--especially for children
 

:O we didnt use to. you bet we do now. but we didnt because they would aggravate our allergies and i didnt know how to sneak them before i had to know how to sneak them.



oh, and i dont recommend castor oil unless nothing else has worked for children. but if one has to, it hides very well in chocolate syrup (i add flax seed to thicken like a fudge), poured over ice cream.

eta:i was thinking on this while making dinner. dh has always eaten tons of fresh garlic and onion, i have had it at every meal for him. but when the entire family had to take meds, he still passed parasites. i think the only true indicator is how a person is feeling. like any chronic aches/probs along with the condition of their digestive system. dh has never had the health probs we have/had  :shrug kind of like why do some mosquitos just like certain people, same with lice  :shrug they often cause probs for people who are compramised in some way or maybe something going on in the body that cant be seen or detected by just appearance.
:nak2

Eta: thanks to a recommendation from another mom i felt the need to come back and add one more recommendation. Diatomaceous earth. Its the easiest and tasteless thing to use. We now take this as our yearly cleanse.

Re: Parasite cleanse--especially for children
 

OK, this is amazing and TOTALLY new to me!! How do you know if your kids have a parasite and how do they get them! Is nail biting a symptom?? Sorry so ignorant...truly have no idea!! Is this common???

Re: Parasite cleanse--especially for children
 

http://www.petsandparasites.org/other/news.html
here's a start. i dont want to take over such a great thread so ill just stop at that. im always :listen about this subject because traditional medicine is so behind, even the cdc's info, and it isnt talked about very much.

Re: Parasite cleanse--especially for children
 

It's interesting that they regularly test animals for this, but not humans. Why is this? :scratch

Re: Parasite cleanse--especially for children
 

i honestly dont know. maybe because the tests are so inacurate. my family dr gave us the meds off the symptoms alone. didnt bother with the tests.
and before them my ob wouldnt take me serious with my complaints until her nurse told me it sounded like a parasite she had had in college.
they dont do testing either so thats why i had to go to my family dr.

with the odds being so high with children i really dont understand why they dont consider parasites in children first when there are stomach problems before they start doing more invasive things. :sadno

other countries and cultures do, perhaps its more of a taboo thing here in the United States :shrug

Re: Parasite cleanse--especially for children
 

Maybe people are just so grossed out by it that they don't walk to talk about it. Good thing we can talk about anything on GCM. :P~

Re: Parasite cleanse--especially for children
 

:yes
I also came back to add that ginger snaps made with fresh ground cloves and a quality molasses is a good thing to add to kids' diet.

Re: Parasite cleanse--especially for children
 

We have used Paranil Jr from Dr Colonix site. The kids at first don't like it and ended up liking it alot.
I will probably do it again when I can get someone to bring from the US for me.

Re: Parasite cleanse--especially for children
 

.