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ArmsOfLove 01-30-2010 08:37 PM

The Diaper Change Hold
 
The pics I promised in the Diaper Change discussion. Again, thanks to Michelle3802's girls for being such good sports. I have a baby and toddler picture :) And we got her toddler to try and wiggle away and she couldn't :)

http://flickr.com/gp/46694941@N05/90712J

abh5e8 01-30-2010 09:29 PM

Re: The Diaper Change Hold
 
huh...so you really hold them with your feet like that for every change? i might hav eto try that...

Marsha 01-30-2010 09:31 PM

Re: The Diaper Change Hold
 
Yep....remember that one well!! And always on the floor, if they DO get away, they don't fall.

abh5e8 01-30-2010 09:32 PM

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can you please post the name of the diaper change thread...i would love to read it but can't find it :scratch

happyhousewife 01-30-2010 09:32 PM

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:tu

Mokek Kwe 01-30-2010 09:56 PM

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THANK YOU SO MUCH for posting this!!! DD (10months) is at the age where I've seriously gotten frustrated a couple times because of her wiggling, and I know it's because she's learning how to be mobile and she'd rather explore, but hopefully this will help- and I'll get to stretch out a little :)

Firebird Rising 01-30-2010 10:01 PM

Re: The Diaper Change Hold
 
we use this one too and I LOVE it.

Jen D.

Rabbit 01-30-2010 10:10 PM

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I think it was on my FB page. I was talking about Seth and his crocodile death rolls.

He'd love that hold. I'm gonna try it, though I'm afraid I might get poop on me.

ArmsOfLove 01-30-2010 10:54 PM

Re: The Diaper Change Hold
 
I do remember that on facebook. I think there was a thread on here too. will go look :)

and part of the challenge is just to be fast--I have wipes IN HAND when I undo the dipe and I lift them and swipe immediately--getting the main area clean. Then drop that in the dirty dipe and move it aside. A few more wipes to clean better and slide the clean dipe in. Fast and efficient.

what's great about this is that my toes are right in the underarm/upper abdomen area so I can tickle with my toes and keep them entertained if they start getting fussy :heart

NovelMama 01-30-2010 11:04 PM

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LOL--I do that too!

Codi 01-30-2010 11:06 PM

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Yes, there was a thread on here too. :yes I remember Crystal saying she would take pics.

mountainash 01-30-2010 11:27 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Rabbit (Post 2867767)
I think it was on my FB page. I was talking about Seth and his crocodile death rolls.

He'd love that hold. I'm gonna try it, though I'm afraid I might get poop on me.

:giggle I'm still chuckling at your crocodile death roll status. I never thought of it that way, but that's exactly what they do!

ArmsOfLove 01-30-2010 11:31 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Codi (Post 2867870)
Yes, there was a thread on here too. :yes I remember Crystal saying she would take pics.

I knew I wasn't crazy--but I can't find it :shifty

Mum2Es 01-31-2010 12:36 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ArmsOfLove (Post 2867913)
I knew I wasn't crazy--but I can't find it :shifty

It was in the parenting self-talk thread. :)

MomtoJGJ 01-31-2010 03:02 AM

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:shifty how do you reach to wipe and change like that? I tried it and I come up a full 6" short

Rabbit 01-31-2010 01:09 PM

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The baby isn't at the full extension of your legs. Your knees are bent. Baby's as close as you want him.

Blueberrybabies 01-31-2010 01:18 PM

Re: The Diaper Change Hold
 
An alternative that has also worked well for me with my bigger guy is to sit beside the child and use my leg over torso and arms.

Blue-EyedLady 01-31-2010 01:19 PM

Re: The Diaper Change Hold
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mum2Es (Post 2867952)
It was in the parenting self-talk thread. :)

:yes And this is exactly what I pictured you doing as you described it. I have yet to actually try it, though. I'm afraid of getting poo on my pants. :sick

My question - how many times have you had to change your clothes after doing the diaper change from this angle? It puts you right in the line of fire, and I KNOW you have boys! :shifty

LadybugSam 01-31-2010 02:39 PM

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hey does this help with them touching their dirty parts? I always had that problem with The Boy, as soon as i unsnapped his diaper his hands would go straight down and he would get them all poopy :yuck

2sunshines 01-31-2010 02:43 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by LadybugSam (Post 2868690)
hey does this help with them touching their dirty parts? I always had that problem with The Boy, as soon as i unsnapped his diaper his hands would go straight down and he would get them all poopy :yuck

Yuck. My boy is doing that now EVERY poopy diaper change.

I haven't tried this hold, but I plan to. :think It seems that with the right angle of your feet, you could make their hands incapable of reaching their privates. :think

As of yet, I've always recruited an older siblings to hold ds' hands during poopy diaper changes.

abh5e8 01-31-2010 02:57 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by LadybugSam (Post 2868690)
hey does this help with them touching their dirty parts? I always had that problem with The Boy, as soon as i unsnapped his diaper his hands would go straight down and he would get them all poopy :yuck

:yes:yes i am wondering this too.

ok...i'm not on facebook, but i am interested in this. i admit...holding them down like that does not seem very...well...gentle. :shrug3 is the idea that this is more gentle than sp**king the child for wiggling? i usually give ds a toy to distract him and hold his feet together in one hand and wipe with the other. very quickly.

off to read the parenting self talk thread. :)

Rabbit 01-31-2010 03:03 PM

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It's not an attempt to teach a child not to wiggle. If they'll lay there holding a toy, fabulous!

Seth has reached a point where he is flipping over onto his tummy and trying to crawl away. I need six hands to get a dirty diaper off, and a clean diaper on. Holding him like this with my feet will reduce my frustration, protect him from getting hurt, and make his diaper change go faster. That's all.

---------- Post added at 04:03 PM ---------- Previous post was at 04:02 PM ----------

It's certainly not a substitute for spanking. That idea just icks me out all over.

ArmsOfLove 01-31-2010 03:13 PM

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boys is why I'm so fast at changing them. As soon as I get the poo wiped off of them I have a diaper over them on the front and them slide it under them. It's all about geometry and physics ;) Guard yourself :P~

and I don't get poo on myself. They are close enough to reach and far enough away to not have it get on me.

Quote:

i admit...holding them down like that does not seem very...well...gentle.
I don't even know how to respond to that :scratch It's not like I'm roughly pinning the child down. And there is no violence or hurting them involved. I don't have any idea what doesn't seem gentle about it to you :scratch :shifty

Mom2fourofthem 01-31-2010 03:18 PM

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LOL I have done that with all my kids :yes When they get older, you can tickle them with your feet if they get upset and it makes them laugh :heart

ArmsOfLove 01-31-2010 03:20 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mom2fourofthem (Post 2868758)
LOL I have done that with all my kids :yes When they get older, you can tickle them with your feet if they get upset and it makes them laugh :heart

Yep :yes I love making it fun while also having it be efficient :yes

Blue-EyedLady 01-31-2010 07:57 PM

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Ok, I tried this tonight with DS. DH took one look at me as I got kicked in the crotch and said "No way!" :shrug Maybe I wasn't doing it right, because DS squirmed out of it in about a second.

Also, maybe my child is unique in this, but I have a hard time getting DS to spread his legs so that I can clean the poo in the folds of his legs, on his boy parts, etc. This hold only seems to make it more difficult... :scratch

Marsha 01-31-2010 09:11 PM

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The spreading of th e legs is difficult. At a certain age, they LOVE to hold themselves rigid and unbending, don't they? I'd try to distract or tickle, anything to get them to relax for a second!!

CompassionateLady 01-31-2010 09:18 PM

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I just had an "a-ha!!" moment. I used that same hold with my oldest daughter when she was little. Boy was she a wiggler.

Our youngest used to lie there for me, but since her last diaper rash, she's started wiggling. BAD. Like trying to flip over on her belly and walk off.

Maybe I ought to give that hold a try. She's awfully ticklish, so I'm sure we could have some fun and not get so frustrated (both of us)!!

Thanks for posting this! I, obviously, needed that refresher :D

Blue-EyedLady 01-31-2010 09:40 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Marsha (Post 2869327)
The spreading of th e legs is difficult. At a certain age, they LOVE to hold themselves rigid and unbending, don't they? I'd try to distract or tickle, anything to get them to relax for a second!!

He's been this way for the last two years. :shrug Tickling him makes him tense up even worse. :sigh Potty learning can't come soon enough for me!

ArmsOfLove 01-31-2010 09:45 PM

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I hold their feet in one hand and lift them. I don't spread their bottom as much as I wipe inside of it. Not sure if that makes sense written out :scratch

The key is that no body limb is unattended and able to flail about :shifty And I do hold them firmly--but not roughly and it's not tight. Just secure :)

Pragmatist 01-31-2010 09:47 PM

Re: The Diaper Change Hold
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Blueberrybabies (Post 2868587)
An alternative that has also worked well for me with my bigger guy is to sit beside the child and use my leg over torso and arms.

This is what I did also. I don't think my feet would have held my dd.

Blue-EyedLady 01-31-2010 10:05 PM

Re: The Diaper Change Hold
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ArmsOfLove (Post 2869384)
I hold their feet in one hand and lift them. I don't spread their bottom as much as I wipe inside of it. Not sure if that makes sense written out :scratch

The key is that no body limb is unattended and able to flail about :shifty And I do hold them firmly--but not roughly and it's not tight. Just secure :)

I think I understand what you're describing above... :think I guess my boy just has a chubby bottom, but I've got to spread his bottom apart to get all the poo cleaned up - even when it's a "normal" poo (not diarrhea).

Maybe this is just the wrong hold for the job I have to do... Would you use this hold for a poop-splosion where the poo has covered every bit of skin normally covered by a diaper? You know - the kind where sticky, goopy mess is in every crack, fold, and crevice possible, and you need 45 wipes to clean it up? :sick:sick Or is this hold just for the quick-y changes where the diaper is only wet or the poo is solid and a quick wipe will do it? I can see the hold working for that sort of change.

BTW - I think you must be a stronger lady than I am to keep a toddler from wiggling with just your feet and one hand! Maybe I ought to go work out more... :barbell :lol

CompassionateLady 01-31-2010 10:10 PM

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I don't spread Princess Piglet's legs either.

While I have her feet held with one hand, I bring her legs back towards her a bit, so her knees are close to her belly, and lift her a bit. Helps spread the rear area to her chubby rear better lol. That's just me, though.

{gosh, not only could I NOT visualize that right ... but I had to sort of act it out with my hands so I could tell if I had it right. Must be bedtime :lol}

ArmsOfLove 01-31-2010 10:13 PM

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:haha

This thread is making me laugh

for a poop-splosion I turn on the bath water and use the spray-faucet to hose them off in the tub :shifty

Blue-EyedLady 01-31-2010 10:25 PM

Re: The Diaper Change Hold
 
Oh. I don't have one of those. :( Whenever I've tried putting DS in the tub to clean a dirty diaper I end up with a bigger mess than when I started. :doh Poo goes EVERYWHERE, and DS tries to drink the bathwater. :sick :sick :sick

ArmsOfLove 01-31-2010 10:38 PM

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when we didn't have one I would run the water without using the stopper and then put the baby in the tub standing up. I'd use a cup to pour the water down them and a washcloth to wipe them down. If it was really bad then when that was done I'd rinse out the tub and fill some water in it for a little bubble bath :yes

Blue-EyedLady 01-31-2010 11:20 PM

Re: The Diaper Change Hold
 
It's really bad - and sometimes several times a day. We can't afford the water bill for DS to take that many baths! ;)

:ot (like I haven't already hijacked this thread enough...) I did too good a job of teaching DS to sit in the tub - he won't stand up in the tub for me now, even when I tell him it's ok. :lol So he sits in the water, gets the water all poopy, then splashes it around the tub (even without the stopper in, the tub drains kind of slow). Does that make sense? I'm amazed at what a mess this boy can make, without even half-trying!

I think I'll stick with my current diaper change posture, at least until the diarrhea clears up... I need the leverage of being able to pretty much lay on DS to spread those rigid legs while I clean him up.

boobymummy 02-01-2010 12:11 AM

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lol! Bit hard on the back though!

MomtoJGJ 02-01-2010 03:00 AM

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I think I'm just too short and fat for that :) if I don't have my legs straight the baby's butt is on me, and if I have them straight I can't bend over and reach their butt or reach to hold their legs up.

I either do it really fast and have their feet bent in front of their chest before they know it (and I have leverage to hold them there without letting them do the stiff as a board thing) Or I hopefully can get some one to come running quickly with cries of HELP POO!!!!! :shifty I do also do the sit beside them with a leg over their chest if they are older toddlers who are cranky and overtired and not wanting to lay still a second.

Buela 02-01-2010 05:28 AM

Re: The Diaper Change Hold
 
While that hold looks awesome, I really think I need to see you professional mom's change a diaper, you make it sound so easy!

But alas, I can't hold even a tiny babes feet with one hand. And I can't reach the diaper well at all from that angle, I get kicked in the face or chest regularly while changing diapes -- but I'm a hobbit


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